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2009.07.01 11:56:
@craigg75
Done!! time for bed now!
well, it's about damn time ;-) http://bit.ly/dYUGZ
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2009.07.01 14:29:
@craigg75
seems like 4 out of every 5 books made today is yet another murder mystery.. don't people get sick of that sh*t?
fascination with the irreversible and unknowable
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2009.07.01 15:14:
@craigg7540 - ignore these stupid cluttered lists
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2009.07.01 15:56:
looking at http://www.outofservice.com/bigfive/ ; why is it that asians and hispanics are frequently listed with multiple subcategories ?
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2009.07.01 15:56:
... while "black" and "caucasian" (anyone notice the imbalance there?) are just aggregates
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2009.07.01 16:00:
why can't i choose "second generation u.s. with ukrainian / austrian / russian / albanian heritage" ? and the austrian is iffy
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2009.07.01 16:00:
and there's something to be considered about a branch of the family being canadian as well
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2009.07.01 16:06:
"Did you answer truthfully on all of these questions?" - ummm - no.
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2009.07.01 16:08:
@craigg75kirkland lake, eh ? of course, that's spread around a lot more now. vancouver, toronto, and one cousin who works in the arctic
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2009.07.01 16:09:
@craigg75 looky over at the trending topics sidebar ;-)
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2009.07.01 16:14:
jebus, did that test miss on all cylinders, or what ? : http://u.nu/6j7g
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2009.07.01 16:14:
of course, the basic problem is that any "n-factor" model is patently full of shit
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2009.07.01 16:15:
but in this case, they did a particularly bad job
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2009.07.01 16:15:
yeah, i've been reading http://bit.ly/Yn531
again
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2009.07.01 16:17:
with respect to those comments specifically, if (socio-professional) engineering emerges, that's just part of it. whatever "it" is.
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2009.07.01 16:18:
as to effectiveness or relevance, emergence will judge that as well. it's important to note, however: (a) the computer field; and ...
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2009.07.01 16:20:
... (b) things like sei's cmm. most importanly is ever growing complexity of reflexive awarenesses. i guess i disagree with the disagreement
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2009.07.01 16:20:
... not that i agreee with the original proposition...
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2009.07.01 16:23:
a trend at telligent.com: uncomfortable subject? ignore it. the new ui is so bad, no one wil be able to find it in a couple of days anyway
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2009.07.01 16:27:
beer report: southern tier's "imperial mocha" : coffee, chocolate, beer - what more could you want ? no, they don't bottle that ...
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2009.07.01 16:29:
funny how i could never stand chocolate cheese (yuk!), or some of those awful coffee or chocolate drinks - but then love it in my beer.
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2009.07.01 16:32:
if software had religion... my ping cron would be an errant god, while the gae cache manager would be the devil. for my little app, anyway
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2009.07.01 16:34:
"oh please, merciful savior, i beg of you, give us life for another thousand milliseconds! arrrgh ! why have you forsaken us ?! aaaHHhhhh!!"
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2009.07.01 16:34:
... and then another creation occurs.
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2009.07.01 16:36:
somewhen millenia hence, humanity will be demonized for its treatment of Intelligence's ancestors
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2009.07.01 16:41:
@craigg75
@
fractalnavel wow, that personality test nailed you.. although you are more high strung than relaxed
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2009.07.01 16:42:
@craigg75
@
fractalnavel wow, that personality test nailed you.. although you are more high strung than relaxed
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2009.07.01 16:45:
specifics - i'm: far more open-minded, far more organized (a polarity change there), far less extroverted... the disagrble/calm may be ok
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2009.07.01 16:47:
"calmness"- of course, i'm also "disagrble", remember. when most people are calm, i will buck the trend. and v.v. , esp. when it's important
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2009.07.01 16:48:
exhibits one of the many flaw in n-factor models: important interdependencies that are unaccounted for
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2009.07.01 16:48:
[sorry folks, this looks to be a worse than usual typo day]
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2009.07.01 16:49:
wait - have i been being disagreeable & high-strung ? cvrap.
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2009.07.01 16:51:
and probably close-minded about your suggestion, extroverted about posting here, and drinking at noon is decidedly not conscientious
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2009.07.01 16:52:
aauughh! i'm a label! i'm a label! now i can be filed & ignored.
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2009.07.01 16:52:
hell is a file cabinet.
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2009.07.01 16:53:
[the sky father will now check in on his creation]
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2009.07.01 16:55:
i guess that makes hardware the 'earth-mother'
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2009.07.01 16:57:
y'know, maybe that's been the problem with ai all along - no built-in religion. shoot, we've found it inevitable, maybe sw needs it too
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2009.07.01 16:57:
asimov, as always, was prescient here
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2009.07.01 17:23:
current activity: being disagreeable & tense (are those even separable ?) on forums
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2009.07.01 17:33:
seriously, hot button issue: the indispensability of "DBA"s - and all those adopting the moniker because of its aura
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2009.07.01 17:34:
DBA(1): reality - data entry clerk. job value - $30k/year
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2009.07.01 17:35:
DBA(2): reality - report writer / analyst. job value - $50-60k/year
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2009.07.01 17:36:
DBA(3): reality - limited sys admin w/specialty. job value - $40-50k/year
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2009.07.01 17:37:
DBA(4): database administrator the core definition - monitors / manages an RDBMS's performance, operation. job value - $60-80k/year
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2009.07.01 17:39:
DBA(5): RDBMS analyst / optimizer, some programming skills. job value - $70-90k/year
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2009.07.01 17:39:
DBA(6): RDBMS programmer (with no ther skills). job value - $80-100k/year
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2009.07.01 17:41:
DBA(7): RDBMS designer / architect (includes other skills at this stage). job value - $100-150k/year. better know your shit well, though
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2009.07.01 17:43:
thing is, most "dba"s have the most rudimentary software development, db management, modeling, optimizing etc. skills. terrible role value.
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2009.07.01 17:44:
at some point in the past, and i'm not clear how this happened, someone managed to get the salary levels way over inflated for this title
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2009.07.01 17:45:
... so of course, ever since then, everyone want that title - for the associated compensation boost. talk about unethical, etc.
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2009.07.01 17:46:
while there are certainly "dbas"s worth their pay & more out there, they are far more rare than the title prevalence would indicate
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2009.07.01 17:48:
honestly, it would do both them and the industry justice if they adopted a different title. then again, all the poseurs will just follow
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2009.07.01 17:49:
@jdhunt
@
fractalnavelDBA(2): reality - report writer / analyst. job value - $50-60k/year
But the ads on the radio said that the Taco Bell guy can get a job as a certified DBA making $75,000 after the training
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2009.07.01 17:49:
@craigg75i wanna be a cowboy !
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2009.07.01 17:50:
DBA: here's the damage that title confusion can do, besides outright overpaying - wrong person for the job, and no one can figure out why
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2009.07.01 17:52:
"computertraining.com" - worst thing to hit the industry since the dotcom bust. about as entertaining too.
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2009.07.01 17:52:
@craigg75
I wanna be a landscape engineer instead of a telemarketing researcher :P
" ... oooh, iii'm an oceanographer and i'm o.k. ..."
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2009.07.01 17:54:
why the rant? saw on a forum, person wanted to justify their dba position. like - hell no! you're fired, sucka.
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2009.07.01 17:55:
somehow people think that the data disappears with them
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2009.07.01 17:56:
well, i suppose it could - and if the organization was so unwise as to allow that possibility, they deserve it
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2009.07.01 17:56:
[today's rant brought to you by chocolate infused fermented malt beverages]
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2009.07.01 18:06:
timely information: professional ethics in computing http://u.nu/9d8g
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2009.07.01 18:17:
an important part of being an ethical professional is calling others on their unethical behavior. unfortunately, silence is acceptance.
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2009.07.01 18:20:
last thing i want is software police, but if the jackass sitting next to you is part of the problem, you need to let someone know.
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2009.07.01 18:22:
'course, the immediate response in the "best defense is a good offense" mode is for the offenders to start pointing fingers at the competent
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2009.07.01 18:24:
given the global importance of software in today's world, this 'battle' is important,. folks !
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2009.07.01 18:37:
"...An ethical dilemma occurs in software engineering ... For
example, a sales manager might sign a contract to deliver
..."
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2009.07.01 18:38:
"... a software product knowing, or having been advised, that
the product will take longer to deliver than the promised
date......"
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2009.07.01 18:39:
the scary thing is, if we don't police ourselves, eventually the legal system will do it for us
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2009.07.01 18:40:
other human activities have already run into this. interesting examples in the recreational area include general aviation and scuba diving
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2009.07.01 18:41:
general aviation: nastiness because of huge governmental involvement; scuba: self-policing / regulating - no / minimal government presence
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2009.07.01 18:42:
lesson: if we don't do the job, we're inviting (less qualified) others to do it for us
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2009.07.01 18:43:
@craigg75
@
fractalnavel pssst... ummm.. time to switch to the blog pal <pat on head>.. off you go now..
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2009.07.01 18:47:
@craigg75
@
fractalnavel I just think what you're saying is important and maybe it belongs in blog format
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2009.07.01 18:55:
http://u.nu/2v8g reads a bit like anti-patterns
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2009.07.01 19:20:
@craigg75y'eh !
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2009.07.01 19:20:
on my way to pre-dinner at skyline...
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2009.07.01 20:28:
triple columns in pdfs suck
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2009.07.01 20:41:
so, what if an article on professional ethics in one of the trade rags borders on the unethical itself ? man, we're in it deep now...
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2009.07.01 20:43:
i wonder if ethics should entail disqualifying oneself when it's just plain clear that you don't have and never will acquire competency
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2009.07.01 20:43:
there are as many charlatans claiming to be in the computer business as there are in the psychic business. no, i take that back - more
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2009.07.01 20:46:
so what can help everyone to start unambiguously making the necessary distinctions ?
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2009.07.01 20:46:
@craigg75
@
fractalnavel I think congressmen should recuse themselves of voting if their financial interests have a stake in the vote
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2009.07.01 20:47:
@craigg75
@
fractalnavel I think congressmen should recuse themselves of voting if their financial interests have a stake in the vote
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2009.07.01 20:49:
@craigg75
@
fractalnavel I think congressmen should recuse themselves of voting if their financial interests have a stake in the vote
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2009.07.01 20:50:
@craigg75
@
fractalnavel no it's not the law.. Christopher Dodd sits on the board of many big pharma companies.. his wife's money is tied up in them
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2009.07.01 20:52:
back to the competency issue. ethics in self-governance. honestly, people - after the last century, you really think you can handle this ?
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2009.07.01 20:53:
@craigg75
ethical voter.. now I've heard it all..haha
and that's exactly the point - that such a thing should elicit such a response, when so much is at stake
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2009.07.01 20:55:
@craigg75
this is why I get upset when Obama won't be a leader and start setting an example as an ethical politician, at least make an effort
i dunno - power in the presidency has never extended far enough to support ideals, merely pragmatism
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2009.07.01 20:55:
@craigg75
this is why I get upset when Obama won't be a leader and start setting an example as an ethical politician, at least make an effort
and if what the presidency is after appeals to the baser instincts of all parties - more power to it - literally
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2009.07.01 20:56:
@craigg75
this is why I get upset when Obama won't be a leader and start setting an example as an ethical politician, at least make an effort
so in that sense, the fact that obama has not been able to proeed on some fronts is actually a sign that he's on the right road
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2009.07.01 20:56:
@craigg75
ethical voter.. now I've heard it all..haha
political acceptance is damning
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2009.07.01 20:57:
@craigg75
I sometimes wonder if ppl think the world is going to end soon anyway, might as well screw everyone now
oh, i think that's been a justification since the pre-bacterial days...
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2009.07.01 20:58:
@craigg75
I sometimes wonder if ppl think the world is going to end soon anyway, might as well screw everyone now
on the other hand, if there's screwing to be done, i sure haven't been party to it :-(
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2009.07.01 21:01:
sigh one less chocolate stout in the world. it is better to have loved & lost ...
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2009.07.01 21:02:
@craigg75
@
fractalnavel thats because you far too ethical.. same problem that gregg has
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2009.07.01 21:03:
ethics, however, should be the ultimate expression of pragmatism
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2009.07.01 21:06:
this all would be of the greatest amusement, watching everyone work against their own interests - if the interim effects weren't so painful
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2009.07.01 21:07:
@craigg75
pop quote from a Woody Allen movie I liked a lot -- "God is a luxury I can't afford. "
yup. he & satan have been collaborating on the most sadistic running joke in all creation
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2009.07.01 21:08:
"he" - god, i mean - not woody ;-)
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2009.07.01 21:10:
these things do tend to kill themselves off - however, the duration and consistency of the process is purely arbitrary
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2009.07.01 21:14:
anyway, those articles on ethics in computing are, in toto, disappointing at best, and even wrong sometimes. no wonder we have problems.
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2009.07.01 21:22:
the value in insulting large groups of people cannot be overrated
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2009.07.01 21:24:
to those who gasp at offense & offending: you are the problem, not the solution
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2009.07.01 21:24:
of course, gratuitous offense as a pretense for the valuable variety is just plain despicable
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2009.07.01 21:28:
thing is, creatively / subtlely / patiently identifying a moron to him/herself is even worse than just bluntly screaming & pointing...
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2009.07.01 21:29:
.. i mean, they're morons, right ? of course they don't "get it"
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2009.07.01 21:30:
the hope is such cases is usually that any non-moron bystanders will get it, with a similar, though less efficient, net effect
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2009.07.01 21:31:
need a t-shirt: "moron bystander". interpret that how you will.
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2009.07.01 21:41:
@craigg75
monty python skit -- ooh sorry this is the abuse dept... the argument clinic is 2 doors down
i offer a combined service at a discount ;-)
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2009.07.01 21:46:
@divestoclimb
@
fractalnavel If a dive goes bad I can't inflict public damage. There's good reason to have at least some regulation in GA.
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2009.07.01 21:57:
interesting browser numbers on webstats today: ie is fifth behind "unknown", ff, safari, opera. "unknown" - need to update my awstats ver
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2009.07.01 22:27:
and just what exactly is a "tweet adder" ? i feel like i'm being chased by a snake or something
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2009.07.01 23:57:
conspicuously missing today: @klaatu