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Tuesday, July 28, 2009

a day in a life 2009.07.28

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  • 2009.07.28 15:57: fyi - contact via email this week - buried in "Critical Issues in the History of Spaceflight" [2005] ( http://u.nu/75vn , pdf, 8 parts )
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Friday, July 24, 2009

a day in a life 2009.07.24

via @fractalnavel: in the last 24 hours:
  • 2009.07.24 14:52: @craigg75
    wow.. Chicago White Sox pitched a perfect game yesterday.. don't see pitching feats like that anymore
    you mean one particular pitcher, complete game ? not nearly as impressive if relievers were involved.
  • 2009.07.24 14:57: @craigg75
    one of the outfielders saved the perfect game with an over the fence catch
    whoa - that will make the all-time highlights
  • 2009.07.24 14:58: @craigg75
    yeah one pitcher went the distance 27 at bats, 27 outs
    so, um - why don't you mention the pitcher's name, instead of the team ? not a solo effort, sure - but still
  • 2009.07.24 15:02: why do people seem to - gush - so much in forums when they like something ? seems way over the top. yeah, it goes the other way as well.
  • 2009.07.24 15:04: the art of reasonable praise & critcism seems lost. and sometimes people's reactions fall short of what seems merited.
  • 2009.07.24 15:05: no, i know it's just me. there's always been an impedance mismatch between me & the universe.
  • 2009.07.24 15:08: reading http://bit.ly/VOmRg . the answer to your question is: who knows.
  • 2009.07.24 16:15: @craigg75
    any achievements in the late 90's and early 00's are suspicious due to steroids
    "steroids" - big can of worms topic there. suffice to say that i disagree with any simple conclusions offered in that area.
  • 2009.07.24 16:16: @craigg75
    it seems a fair number of perfect game pitchers are unknowns.. Sandy Koufax and Catfish Hunter are stars but the rest...http://bit.ly/ugcAY
    so i guess that really does highlight the team effort aspect of these achievements - combined with sheer dumb luck, of course.
  • 2009.07.24 16:17: @craigg75
    any achievements in the late 90's and early 00's are suspicious due to steroids
    ... which in turn makes any consideration of enhancements a moot issue. also occurs in both offense / defense.
  • 2009.07.24 16:19: @craigg75
    well when it comes to comparing stats, you need to exclude steroid results since it's comparing apples to oranges
    "... suffice to say ..."
  • 2009.07.24 16:21: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @craigg75
    any achievements in the late 90's and early 00's are suspicious due to steroids
    ... which in turn makes any consideration of enhancements a moot issue. also occurs in both offense / defense.
    disagree. baseball is highlighted by individual efforts more so than in other "team" sports
    in reference to the number of "unknowns" v. stars in that stat? hey, i'm just going with the numbers and what they seem to suggest
  • 2009.07.24 16:22: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @craigg75
    any achievements in the late 90's and early 00's are suspicious due to steroids
    ... which in turn makes any consideration of enhancements a moot issue. also occurs in both offense / defense.
    disagree. baseball is highlighted by individual efforts more so than in other "team" sports
    if it were possible to eliminate the effects of chance in historical sports records - it's mostly a wash, with a few exceptions
  • 2009.07.24 16:26: the validity of the concept of personal responsibility for individual achievement- whether judged laudable or criminal- "..suffice to say.."
  • 2009.07.24 16:27: rather than engage in any "cloud" debates, i'll just indicate the points of departure
  • 2009.07.24 16:30: the role of chance: applies to all human endeavors. focii / nexii are identifiable, but not causal. (independent comment here)
  • 2009.07.24 16:33: "don't believe everything you read - don't read only things you believe".
  • 2009.07.24 16:34: those things that seem most obvious or accepted deserve the most questioning.
  • 2009.07.24 16:35: the really ironic thing is that people will often accept that approach - but only when it comes from commonly acknowledged sources.
  • 2009.07.24 16:37: it's kind of the anti-religion as religion - you can only address your disbeliefs through the established temples of skepticism.
  • 2009.07.24 16:38: "you too can be a skeptic - but you have to follow these rules ..."
  • 2009.07.24 16:39: oh, sure - no guarantee of freedom from cracked-pottery. but when was there ever ?
  • 2009.07.24 16:41: the good thing about questioning - if you have a taste for that sort of thing - is that it strengthens truth as well as uncovers falsehood
  • 2009.07.24 16:42: "but can't you just go along to get along?" - no. i am constitutionally incapable of this. to everyone's regret / annoyance, mine included.
  • 2009.07.24 22:38: reading - next up: Apollo - Expeditions to the Moon [1975] http://u.nu/3c6n the spirit of those times was so unlike our own.
  • 2009.07.24 22:42: imagine if that attitude had access to today's technology - a sense of both astonishment and tragedy sets in
  • 2009.07.24 22:45: the second paragraph of the foreword is all that needs reading http://bit.ly/euJow
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Thursday, July 23, 2009

a day in a life 2009.07.23

via @fractalnavel: in the last 24 hours:
  • 2009.07.23 13:41: olpc xo: always happy to see counterpoint from this direction: http://bit.ly/27hKr9
  • 2009.07.23 13:50: @craigg75
    the anti-EULA, cool -- http://smallprint.netzoo.net/reag/
    cool - but the problem is that many consumers are just as big jerks as the corporations. it escalated into insanity from there.
  • 2009.07.23 14:34: @craigg75
    ha! & nbsp; shows up as a space here
    use an escaped ampersand first:  
  • 2009.07.23 14:34: @craigg75
    @klaatu has vaccinophobia
    doesn't penicillin clear that up ?
  • 2009.07.23 14:35: @craigg75
    ha! & nbsp; shows up as a space here
    or, to illustrate:  
  • 2009.07.23 14:37: sometimes i have this urge to make fun of people's online names - then i notice my own.
  • 2009.07.23 14:47: gae never seems to return 304's...
  • 2009.07.23 15:39: @klaatu
    Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own. - Robert Heinlein
    i think that's called "co-dependence" now.
  • 2009.07.23 16:18: hmm - nosql from the far side: http://bit.ly/Jsdjr
  • 2009.07.23 16:20: @klaatu @craigg75 but don't we sometimes talk about the need to "cull the herd" ? perhaps we should see this as an opportunity.
  • 2009.07.23 16:45: interesting: "10 Rules That Govern Groups" http://u.nu/3yum (via @klaatu) flaws in some of these, but need to follow this field wrt web2.0
  • 2009.07.23 16:48: i vaguely remember reading an article about online group behavior in recent months. all pretty basic. all pretty depressing, if you're me.
  • 2009.07.23 16:53: @craigg75
    ann arbor news is the latest to go down -- http://bit.ly/1sbEJ
    and yet magazines still proliferate. what gives ?
  • 2009.07.23 17:00: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel offer nothing unique that can't be pulled off an AP feed, magazines offer more
    so the mistake was the papers making too deep cuts in the wrong places: reporters ? (as in, unique stories)
  • 2009.07.23 17:05: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel of course it was a "Cull The Herd" event. Kissinger coin da phrase "Useless Eaters" in '74. Prblm is who defines useless?
    the nebulous "powers that be". does it matter? once evolved instincts are dismissed, no, not really. live, die, suffer - meh.
  • 2009.07.23 17:07: @klaatu
    Newspapers: I wonder if there was a big noise when the last clay scroll was enscribed? Oh that papyrus is killing the market!
    this time it's a change in kind, not in media. however, the papers have been zombies/shells for quite some time. scary: what's next?
  • 2009.07.23 17:09: @craigg75
    "10. Groups breed competition." usually morphs into kill the other group(s).. almost like a switch in our heads when we identify with a grp
    potential methodological error: how much is innate vs. learned?
  • 2009.07.23 17:12: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel some fear that the loss of newspaper will effect our democracy? (and no don't say we don't say we don't have a democracy)
    aww, maan ;-) death of the nth estate, right. it's not the media that's at issue, it's the profession, which seems comatose now.
  • 2009.07.23 17:13: news: do events have press passes for bloggers ? are "investigative bloggers" effective? how about publicy reliable professional standards?
  • 2009.07.23 17:14: while the "old" media may have become ineffective recently, the new media has yet - of ever - to step into the breach.
  • 2009.07.23 17:15: this will be a costly gap - hopefully not new status quuo.
  • 2009.07.23 17:15: "of ever" = "if ever" - not sure if that typo would make the translation
  • 2009.07.23 17:16: @craigg75
    ever look at pictures of young people before 1975? Where are the fatties?
    wow - no shit.
  • 2009.07.23 17:19: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    @fractalnavel "I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member" Groucho Marx
    @fractalnavel There really is a Groucho Marx club now in London http://www.thegrouchoclub.com/
    ".. i'm sorry - i thought this was the karl marx club..." "around the corner, sir."
  • 2009.07.23 17:19: @craigg75
    that kind of "news" is a form of mind control like religion.. pay no attention to the guy behind the curtain
    "free at last, free at last, free at last"
  • 2009.07.23 17:21: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel My problem with the powers that be wanting to call a culling is that I can't cull them.
    but that's just a power struggle. "if i make the rules, i will survive". but every "i" makes the same argument.
  • 2009.07.23 17:23: @klaatu
    .@craigg75 Any paper with > 10k circulation isn't democratic to begin with. Just a bullhorn for the owners propaganda slant.
    interesting point. so, let's consider this scaling problem issue in the context of political parties - same results, of course.
  • 2009.07.23 17:23: @craigg75
    karl marx club.. hilarious.. monty python skit in there somewhere
    not sure which is funnier - the groucho marxer's at the karl club, or vice versa.
  • 2009.07.23 17:25: seriously, do i have to ignore this "democracy" stuff ? the damn foundation is rotted, and we're talking about what hangs on the walls.
  • 2009.07.23 17:26: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel My problem with the powers that be wanting to call a culling is that I can't cull them.
    but that's just a power struggle. "if i make the rules, i will survive". but every "i" makes the same argument.
    @klaatu would lower population be better for all concerned even if those doing the culling are evil?
    oh, cvrap - "better". damn value issue, again. but, y'know, maintaining a contemporary context for that - i think, yes. sad, eh?
  • 2009.07.23 17:27: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel My problem with the powers that be wanting to call a culling is that I can't cull them.
    but that's just a power struggle. "if i make the rules, i will survive". but every "i" makes the same argument.
    @klaatu would lower population be better for all concerned even if those doing the culling are evil?
    but - those culling wouldn't stop there, of course.
  • 2009.07.23 17:34: culling: could the survivors of a massive extermination live with their "original sin" ? guilt seems anti-evolutionary - but can't be.
  • 2009.07.23 17:38: @craigg75
    culling -- life eventually goes on as always
    if everyone was in on it together. thus, the christian "communion" rite.
  • 2009.07.23 17:40: @craigg75
    culling -- life eventually goes on as always
    so then (tempting godwin's law), was hitler unfairly demonized ? was his sin merely that he did not build prior consensus ?
  • 2009.07.23 17:41: @craigg75
    ever ponder the question -- so what if the entire human race gets wiped out? who cares? the universe? god?
    "ever" - more like "when do i not"
  • 2009.07.23 17:44: what's a better group binder-shared pride or shared guilt? or more generally,is it the more, or less,"noble" instincts that bring us closer?
  • 2009.07.23 17:46: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    ever look at pictures of young people before 1975? Where are the fatties?
    fatties: taking the pictures of course. We were all thinner B4 HFCS replaced regular sugar & everything wasn't maxed out w/MSG
    we traded health for flavor ? life for sensation ? i sense an avenue for self-culling
  • 2009.07.23 17:47: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    ever look at pictures of young people before 1975? Where are the fatties?
    My grandma cooked like you lived on a farm. Ppl used to eat big meals, two platefuls easy, so growing portion size isn't an excuse
    yeah - i have a sister who still cooks that way. works for me anyway; i lose weight. but not her kids. what gives?
  • 2009.07.23 17:49: ah - hfcs = high fructose corn syrup. hmm. wasn't that around a lot earlier ? also, think of introduction of things like crisco
  • 2009.07.23 17:51: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    ever look at pictures of young people before 1975? Where are the fatties?
    I don't think "kids were more active then" works either, we were all pretty active until the soccer mom era took over.
    as in, unstructured vs. structured activity ? in control v. chaos, control loses again. anarchy rules! (*huh?)
  • 2009.07.23 17:57: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel My problem with the powers that be wanting to call a culling is that I can't cull them.
    but that's just a power struggle. "if i make the rules, i will survive". but every "i" makes the same argument.
    power struggle: Hey, I'm keeping it simple today. I just rate the survival utility of politico's < pond scum.
    lol - works for me ;-)
  • 2009.07.23 17:59: @craigg75
    culling -- life eventually goes on as always
    "life goes on" - the non-living take offense.
  • 2009.07.23 18:04: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel scaling: if you can't "touch" it, you can't control/work/handle it. Takes big $ clout 2 get party focus when > village size
    which in turn is only effective when individual greed comes into play
  • 2009.07.23 18:05: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel scaling: if you can't "touch" it, you can't control/work/handle it. Takes big $ clout 2 get party focus when > village size
    so would limits on group size help mitigate the greed effect ?
  • 2009.07.23 18:12: @klaatu
    @craigg75 pop size: Think some of the speed of change in life is due to large pop numbers. If turnover reduced, breakthru's come less often.
    yes & no: the various trials need enough exposure to be tested situationally. need both short & long term for that. no easy answer
  • 2009.07.23 18:13: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel My problem with the powers that be wanting to call a culling is that I can't cull them.
    but that's just a power struggle. "if i make the rules, i will survive". but every "i" makes the same argument.
    @klaatu would lower population be better for all concerned even if those doing the culling are evil?
    pop size: depends on size factors 2 sustain population & genetic diversity. Then its churn so we get a genius more often.
    genius is overrated. genius is underrated. genius is contextual. need "genius" to reside in the system, not the individual.
  • 2009.07.23 18:14: @klaatu
    .@craigg75 Whats the url 4 that Karl Marx Club?
    @craigg75 - are you going to tell him, or should i ? ;-)
  • 2009.07.23 18:16: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel culling: any "original sin" will become proud history in a generation or two. Bible shows many cities/peoples killed 4 glory
    that's my thought. no survival benefit in unending contrition.
  • 2009.07.23 18:27: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel Hitler built prior consensus but didn't win the war. If he did history (his-story) would be written differently.
    prior universal consensus. or a practical facsimile thereof.
  • 2009.07.23 18:28: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel Besides, Hitler was mostly a pawn. Others in power were far more evil. The worst 1's even remove themselves to appear clean
    oh, sure. but using his name gives a convenient temporal location, unlike "nazi" or whatever.
  • 2009.07.23 18:29: @craigg75
    the Nazis are a good example what happens when you let thugs run things.. prisons are a good example
    classic experiment referenced in that article you read earlier: you don't have to start as a thug, you become one.
  • 2009.07.23 18:30: @craigg75
    the Nazis are a good example what happens when you let thugs run things.. prisons are a good example
    ie- it's a situational response (based on the training & genetics brought into it of course). are we cultural-genetic thugs, then?
  • 2009.07.23 18:33: @craigg75
    All - Please help me eat this 1/2 gallon of Blue Bunny chocolate ice cream before it melts.
    i guess it's a good thing that person had not just returned from the local red light district
  • 2009.07.23 18:34: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    ah - hfcs = high fructose corn syrup. hmm. wasn't that around a lot earlier ? also, think of introduction of things like crisco
    nah, 72-75 was when HFCS became cheaper than enbargo'd sugar so everybody switched. Need a few years for effects to bloom.
    ahh - i forgot about the sugar thing then - classic commodity market get rich time.
  • 2009.07.23 18:35: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel true.. in fact the nazis would rally up jew hate in the conquered territories to get the villages to give up their jews
    hmm - compare to present day
  • 2009.07.23 18:37: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @craigg75
    ever look at pictures of young people before 1975? Where are the fatties?
    I don't think "kids were more active then" works either, we were all pretty active until the soccer mom era took over.
    as in, unstructured vs. structured activity ? in control v. chaos, control loses again. anarchy rules! (*huh?)
    as in play ball, eat 2 dinner plates, go outside & play ball again till 10pm vs sitting 4 vid games & rides to 1hr soccer crap
    yeah, there really wasn't a lot of reason to sit inside for long. even tv got old. and reading was often reserved for the evening
  • 2009.07.23 18:38: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @craigg75
    ever look at pictures of young people before 1975? Where are the fatties?
    I don't think "kids were more active then" works either, we were all pretty active until the soccer mom era took over.
    as in, unstructured vs. structured activity ? in control v. chaos, control loses again. anarchy rules! (*huh?)
    as in play ball, eat 2 dinner plates, go outside & play ball again till 10pm vs sitting 4 vid games & rides to 1hr soccer crap
    kinda what i do at my sister's place. my old habits kicked in. her kids have the new habits.
  • 2009.07.23 18:39: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel indv greed ties to clout that way. U will hear me b/c I can do things 4 you etc. yep, clout is a word we don't exercise enuf.
    it's the mistake i make in the workplace: assuming the wrong motivations.
  • 2009.07.23 18:40: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel Hitler built prior consensus but didn't win the war. If he did history (his-story) would be written differently.
    prior universal consensus. or a practical facsimile thereof.
    look how easy it was for the media to whip up war frenzy in 2003, too many examples of it really
    so is this a problem that needs solving ? and what would be candidate solutions ?
  • 2009.07.23 18:42: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel So perhaps the past 100yrs has been field trials to det what pop size it takes 2 keep innovation coming at full speed.
    trading off with other effects. sure, why not. still too many value judgements involved.
  • 2009.07.23 18:42: [damn whale]
  • 2009.07.23 18:43: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel Hitler built prior consensus but didn't win the war. If he did history (his-story) would be written differently.
    prior universal consensus. or a practical facsimile thereof.
    look how easy it was for the media to whip up war frenzy in 2003, too many examples of it really
    so is this a problem that needs solving ? and what would be candidate solutions ?
    Rejection of the group is the solution.. but that leaves.. um you? :P
    lol !
  • 2009.07.23 18:44: @craigg75
    I always heard the metric was town pop = 10K, each town separated by 50 miles
    need to work out those numbers
  • 2009.07.23 18:45: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel My problem with the powers that be wanting to call a culling is that I can't cull them.
    but that's just a power struggle. "if i make the rules, i will survive". but every "i" makes the same argument.
    @klaatu would lower population be better for all concerned even if those doing the culling are evil?
    pop size: depends on size factors 2 sustain population & genetic diversity. Then its churn so we get a genius more often.
    genius is overrated. genius is underrated. genius is contextual. need "genius" to reside in the system, not the individual.
    genius was catchall term b/c 140 chars sucks. Is ALWAYS an indiv that changes stat quo, never in the system itself
    which may say something about initiatives like sei's cmm
  • 2009.07.23 18:49: @craigg75
    I always heard the metric was town pop = 10K, each town separated by 50 miles
    works out to about 250M global population
  • 2009.07.23 18:51: @craigg75
    I always heard the metric was town pop = 10K, each town separated by 50 miles
    cut that in half for inhabitable regions - yeah, always figured 100M sounded like a good sustainable number
  • 2009.07.23 18:52: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    All - Please help me eat this 1/2 gallon of Blue Bunny chocolate ice cream before it melts.
    I think that email is womanspeak 4 office party is now. 'suppose 2 know the why implicitly less U were head down coder'ing 2 long.
    breaks the code ! ;-)
  • 2009.07.23 18:52: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @craigg75
    I always heard the metric was town pop = 10K, each town separated by 50 miles
    works out to about 250M global population
    you frighten me when you do math that fast
    huh ? that seemed to take a long time - i was kinda disappointed in myself
  • 2009.07.23 18:54: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @craigg75
    I always heard the metric was town pop = 10K, each town separated by 50 miles
    works out to about 250M global population
    you frighten me when you do math that fast
    of course, it'd go faster if i'd use paper or a calculator or something
  • 2009.07.23 18:56: @craigg75
    @klaatu
    @craigg75
    All - Please help me eat this 1/2 gallon of Blue Bunny chocolate ice cream before it melts.
    I think that email is womanspeak 4 office party is now. 'suppose 2 know the why implicitly less U were head down coder'ing 2 long.
    male sender on that email.. they always have charity stuff going on here, probably some kids thing went on..leftovers
    genders at notforprofits are sometimes a fuzzy thing
  • 2009.07.23 18:58: @craigg75
    interesting google links on "sustainable population density" -- popular topic obviously
    differnet definitons of "sustainable" make a big imapct. your 10k town every 50 miles considers socio-political factors
  • 2009.07.23 18:59: @craigg75
    interesting google links on "sustainable population density" -- popular topic obviously
    seems a lot of what you find on google are more about least common denomintator physical survival - blah.
  • 2009.07.23 18:59: typo storm !
  • 2009.07.23 19:16: @craigg75
    sei's cmm?
    carnegie mellon universitiy's software engineering institute's capability maturity model for software
  • 2009.07.23 19:18: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel My problem with the powers that be wanting to call a culling is that I can't cull them.
    but that's just a power struggle. "if i make the rules, i will survive". but every "i" makes the same argument.
    @klaatu would lower population be better for all concerned even if those doing the culling are evil?
    pop size: depends on size factors 2 sustain population & genetic diversity. Then its churn so we get a genius more often.
    genius is overrated. genius is underrated. genius is contextual. need "genius" to reside in the system, not the individual.
    genius was catchall term b/c 140 chars sucks. Is ALWAYS an indiv that changes stat quo, never in the system itself
    which may say something about initiatives like sei's cmm
    sei's cmm: yeah I just read an article by some pgmr proj guru & he's pulled a 180. Only factory work can be modeled with that.
    oh, bull. but no tool should be applied blindly. very few cmm level 5's in the world (handful?). some of nasa has acheived it.
  • 2009.07.23 19:19: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @craigg75
    I always heard the metric was town pop = 10K, each town separated by 50 miles
    cut that in half for inhabitable regions - yeah, always figured 100M sounded like a good sustainable number
    @craigg75 The "useless eaters" remark makers point to 1Billion but thats planetary. We only had 150M ppl during WWII
    wwii ? who, "we" ? the u.s. ? no, i meant 100M global. when was the last time popualtion was there ? not too long ago, really.
  • 2009.07.23 19:20: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel My problem with the powers that be wanting to call a culling is that I can't cull them.
    but that's just a power struggle. "if i make the rules, i will survive". but every "i" makes the same argument.
    @klaatu would lower population be better for all concerned even if those doing the culling are evil?
    pop size: depends on size factors 2 sustain population & genetic diversity. Then its churn so we get a genius more often.
    genius is overrated. genius is underrated. genius is contextual. need "genius" to reside in the system, not the individual.
    genius was catchall term b/c 140 chars sucks. Is ALWAYS an indiv that changes stat quo, never in the system itself
    which may say something about initiatives like sei's cmm
    sei's cmm: yeah I just read an article by some pgmr proj guru & he's pulled a 180. Only factory work can be modeled with that.
    but yeah, sei cmm certification (or whatever) can be expensive - need a reason. like everything - balance.
  • 2009.07.23 19:23: hmm - 100M planetary means 5M for u.s. proportional to curent distribution. but i think current distribution is part of the problem.
  • 2009.07.23 19:35: "democracy": favors those willing to breed irresponsibly. you may want to reconsider the catholic position. no, not "missionary". heathens.
  • 2009.07.23 19:45: sad to see "web" jobs fall under a marketing department
  • 2009.07.23 20:14: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    Brain-dead AOL-er,I should do the world a favor and cap you like Old Yeller You're just about as useless as jpegs to Hellen Keller
    So you're saying we should cull the world of all AOL-ers? Hmm, that'd be a start.
    oooh, noooo - there i goooooo ....
  • 2009.07.23 20:16: my first sig: y'know, i never use sigs ...
  • 2009.07.23 20:21: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    my first sig: y'know, i never use sigs ...
    perhaps we should use "winnow" instead of "cull" ;)
    lol - man, that place was so fucked up
  • 2009.07.23 20:27: dogfish head's festina peche: a bit disappointing in the context of how well they've done with other recent creations.
  • 2009.07.23 20:28: then again, my taste buds seem - strange - lately
  • 2009.07.23 20:33: @klaatu
    Democracy without morality is impossible. -Kemp, Jack http://quotationsbook.com/quote/10458/
    yet i think recent years have built a case that democracy with morality (should be quoted) is impossible as well.
  • 2009.07.23 20:35: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    my first sig: y'know, i never use sigs ...
    Your 2nd sig: y'know, i never use sigs, I heard they give you cancer.
    lol - i may just have to start using sigs - cough - "...again, please..."
  • 2009.07.23 20:36: @klaatu
    I'd like 2 point out that I didn't ask 4 that quote, the universe just now decided to chime in on Democracy for us.
    "Ding"
  • 2009.07.23 20:42: i guess it's a good thing i never ran into mr. whipple here...
  • 2009.07.23 20:45: i'd like to be able to twitter in sean connery's accent (*what?!)
  • 2009.07.23 20:46: what's kinda scary is the most popular download on that new site of mine has been the classic asp one.
  • 2009.07.23 20:47: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    i guess it's a good thing i never ran into mr. whipple here...
    that's ha-whipple
    say "whip" ;-)
  • 2009.07.23 20:48: must be endofday, i can feel the silliness kicking in
  • 2009.07.23 20:48: oh wait - that's beer
  • 2009.07.23 20:50: @craigg75 this would be another notch higher on the funny scale if we were all using "family guy" avatars
  • 2009.07.23 20:50: @craigg75
    ha-whip
    ... pplee
  • 2009.07.23 20:54: hwoa - did you see that hwale ? hwat an experience. man. i'm hwipped. so, hwat's for dinner ?
  • 2009.07.23 20:54: @craigg75
    um.. I thought I was ..stewie? hello? too much of that banana beer?
    but we're not :(
  • 2009.07.23 20:57: @craigg75
    at days end I think we've again proven that twitter is just a retarded version of internet chat
    i think there's redundancy there ;-)
  • 2009.07.23 20:59: @craigg75
    oh joy @klaatu shopping bot has taken control :)
    honestly, it reflects the human expreience pretty well. "sound & fury", and all that rot...
  • 2009.07.23 21:00: @craigg75
    you know I never liked the widescreen lcd pc monitors.. rather have the 4:3 aspect ratio
    agreed.
  • 2009.07.23 21:01: @craigg75
    you know I never liked the widescreen lcd pc monitors.. rather have the 4:3 aspect ratio
    think of where your natural peripheral vision boundaries lie
  • 2009.07.23 21:15: you know, if you effectively shut people up, there's no one left to talk to.
  • 2009.07.23 21:34: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    you know, if you effectively shut people up, there's no one left to talk to.
    No you'd have no one left to talk WITH still able to talk TO them though. But those damn kids never listen or get off my lawn.
    yeah, i was thinking of alternative prepositions there. but people don't usually listen unless you let them talk. in this culture.
  • 2009.07.24 02:47: coool - somehow suddenly went from 200 to 140 followers ;-) in less than an hour, with no activity on my part. eh, whatever.
  • 2009.07.24 02:52: briefly poking around, this looks like a widespread thing. huh.
  • 2009.07.24 02:54: twitter error correction, i guess - or error introduction. no way to tell.
  • 2009.07.24 03:16: cheney, paul, whoever: i kinda wish the presidential has-beens & wouldhavebeens would stand down a bit.
  • 2009.07.24 03:18: there's a limit to how much turmoil a system can take, even if said turmoil would have a positive effect if considered in isolation.
  • 2009.07.24 03:20: on the other hand we don't need blind group-think either. it just seems that good judgement isn't available anymore- & it was rare to start
(pulled direct from twitter via custom job)
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Wednesday, July 22, 2009

a day in a life 2009.07.22

via @fractalnavel: in the last 24 hours:
  • 2009.07.22 13:40: don't know what's worse: n00bs asking an already answered question, or people offering "answers" that are wrong.
  • 2009.07.22 15:13: @craigg75
    if I see another mongoloid write a comment on bb in all caps I swear I'm going to go evil
    WOW, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE ! (let's see what 'go evil' looks like ;-) )
  • 2009.07.22 15:14: @craigg75
    campaign to remove the caps lock key.. sign here...
    thing is, some people actually intend to type in caps - and don't use caps lock, they just hold down the shfit key as they type.
  • 2009.07.22 15:15: @craigg75
    if I see another mongoloid write a comment on bb in all caps I swear I'm going to go evil
    so dante had the right idea: we need different levels of hell.
  • 2009.07.22 15:20: no tv: weird - i've been having tv show flashback dreams lately. like late in the nicotine withdrawal process, with sitcoms instead of cigs
  • 2009.07.22 16:40: if you have a bit of time to blow, this is fun: http://www.asofterworld.com/oqarchive.php
  • 2009.07.22 18:13: i like rainy days, & an open jeep.
  • 2009.07.22 18:14: stone has a thirteenth anniversary ale out. aroma - grapefruit ! either beer is getting weirder, or there's something very wrong somewhere.
  • 2009.07.22 18:14: oh, ok - both.
  • 2009.07.22 19:18: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    I think I'm done with Dave Matthews.. all of his songs sound the same.. bland, generic
    plus Dave Matthews sings like he's having an epileptic fit. Very distracting.
    that style's all the rage - for a while now - well, ok, last time i was paying any attention. which has been a while. nebber mind.
  • 2009.07.22 19:22: have you noticed how useless the trending topics have become ? didn't last long. i guess that's the business model: now charge 'em for that.
  • 2009.07.22 19:23: @craigg75
    @klaatu I'm still waiting for the monotone vocal style to die off.. how many male singers sing outside of one note?
    ... or swing wildly from key to key, never finding a place to settle...
  • 2009.07.22 19:24: @craigg75
    @klaatu I'm still waiting for the monotone vocal style to die off.. how many male singers sing outside of one note?
    there's another possibility, y'know: age ;-)
  • 2009.07.22 19:25: @craigg75
    @klaatu I'm still waiting for the monotone vocal style to die off.. how many male singers sing outside of one note?
    carson daly recently (prior to dtv, anyway) has had some decent singers on. still - all sounds like "whiny ballads" to me.
  • 2009.07.22 19:28: remember when you were a kid, & you used to stand forever staring in the open refrigerator door, and y'know, nothing better ever appeared ?
  • 2009.07.22 19:28: yeah. well, twitter is a lot like that.
  • 2009.07.22 20:15: will be dumping this forum shit in september. why is it more important for some people to be "right" (when they're not), than to be fixed ?
  • 2009.07.22 20:16: oh right - as long as they get to point the finger somewhere else. i forgot.
  • 2009.07.22 20:17: rtfm! rtfm! rtfm! that's not just a joke, people.
  • 2009.07.22 20:19: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel why september? your contract up then?
    nothing to do with that at all, unfortunately. it's my own sense of responsibility to independent professional undertakings.
  • 2009.07.22 20:20: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel why september? your contract up then?
    one forum down already. another will go because i figure it has been a year since i've seen the software ;-) ...
  • 2009.07.22 20:21: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel why september? your contract up then?
    ... and the rest when the transition period is over for the change that my app supports. it will run unatttended after that.
  • 2009.07.22 20:22: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel the webs you weave.. oh my...<face palm>
    eh, sort of. but i've been learning a lot myself. professional development, of a sort.
  • 2009.07.22 20:23: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel the webs you weave.. oh my...<face palm>
    i like to finish what i've started.
  • 2009.07.22 20:23: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel the webs you weave.. oh my...<face palm>
    well - in some things, anyway ;-)
  • 2009.07.22 20:26: "my problem is special - how dare you solve it so quickly (& dismissively) !" ...
  • 2009.07.22 20:26: ... but i was once warned about that sort of thing: act as if all issues are a big deal, else people get insulted. sigh
  • 2009.07.22 20:27: i never learned that about relationships either, did i ? :-p
  • 2009.07.22 20:29: @craigg75
    first day using .NET 3.5 at work.. already used LINQ a few times.. life is good
    hmmm... trade offs vs. sql ?
  • 2009.07.22 20:33: rainy day - the cedars out back seem to be especially aromatic, wafting in on the breeze from the porch - i wonder why ...
  • 2009.07.22 20:33: ... or perhaps i should be checking on something - brb ...
  • 2009.07.22 20:39: @craigg75
    linq on sql is kind of cool, but if you write proper stored procs I don't see much need for it
    kinda what i thought. my original take was that they were basically a crutch for those who can't break out of visual studio - ??
  • 2009.07.22 20:39: @craigg75
    linq provides some syntactic sugar instead of writing lengthy delegate routines when working with object collections
    so does this also help reduce errors ?
  • 2009.07.22 20:43: @craigg75
    in short, imagine saying select id from objectcollection where name = 'craig' order by address, instead of writing a ton of code to do this
    isn't that equivalent (semantically) to embedding the same sql in your code ? which we were taught not to do (for good reason) ?
  • 2009.07.22 20:44: @craigg75
    in short, imagine saying select id from objectcollection where name = 'craig' order by address, instead of writing a ton of code to do this
    there is value in that, but it should be used - differently. i'll actually have to use it in a production project to tell
  • 2009.07.22 20:45: damn - i need a new box. heavy duty loaded laptop - need to get my hands on azure, but it needs iis7 - not here :-(
  • 2009.07.22 20:47: @craigg75
    no, not like that... its using sql syntax (linq) against a collection of objects, like an array or generic list for instance
    i'll have to think about that... seems a lot of list-savvy languages already have decent syntax for that. why not emulate those?
  • 2009.07.22 20:47: @craigg75
    no, not like that... its using sql syntax (linq) against a collection of objects, like an array or generic list for instance
    then again - late model c does seem to provide those options as well...
  • 2009.07.22 20:48: @craigg75
    you can go nuts with linq and perform joins and grouping but for simple sorting and filtering its a gem
    ahh - now that i'll buy.
  • 2009.07.22 20:49: @craigg75
    I like it since it does force you to adopt some useful functional programming concepts
    hmm. ok, that's a good thing. i've been trying to encourage that style for - a long time now.
  • 2009.07.22 20:50: @craigg75
    I don't think linq is an original idea.. and yes I think MS is probably emulating (or outright copying) somebody else
    no, i was saying that would be a good thing. so - fine with me ;-)
  • 2009.07.22 20:51: would be nice to see languages continue to converge. interesting development, as an emergent process, rather than top down (e.g., pl/i)
  • 2009.07.22 20:52: @craigg75
    here's a quick list of examples http://bit.ly/14U63X
    "quick" ?! ;-) "101" - k, no one should have to ask "how do i ..." ;-)
  • 2009.07.22 20:53: @craigg75
    I feel like kind of bad, the other programmer is already lost with all the jquery I've used, now I'm throwing linq at her...
    oh, come on - exploding heads ? in cube-land ? that''s _great afternoon entertainment ! where's the popcorn ? POP !
  • 2009.07.22 20:55: @craigg75
    here's a quick list of examples http://bit.ly/14U63X
    whoa- cool- i see what you mean about the functional thing. although jamming into a single language facility like that seems- odd
  • 2009.07.22 21:05: @craigg75 curious - the basis for the decision to introduce new tech at this point in the project ?
  • 2009.07.22 21:08: @SowaJF
    Michigan Brewers Guild at Ypsi this weekend - beers, beers, beers, and oh yeah beers
    if you haven't already, hie thee to yon local brew shoppe, horde some dogfish head special brews this summer. good shit.
  • 2009.07.22 21:09: @craigg75
    anything to deliver that faster is good
    so it's "continuous improvement" then.
  • 2009.07.22 21:09: @craigg75
    because the project is nothing more than a research tool, sorting, filtering, viewing collections n different ways
    nice to be able to play.
  • 2009.07.22 21:12: @craigg75
    1 line is faster than 40 lines of code I guess.. less room for mistakes, sql syntax is easier to understand at a glance what is going on.etc
    all good. benefits of functional programming.
  • 2009.07.22 21:13: @craigg75
    1 line is faster than 40 lines of code I guess.. less room for mistakes, sql syntax is easier to understand at a glance what is going on.etc
    but - refactoring rules, etc. - but sounds like that is your project. is there really that much of a problem with performance?
  • 2009.07.22 21:14: @craigg75
    1 line is faster than 40 lines of code I guess.. less room for mistakes, sql syntax is easier to understand at a glance what is going on.etc
    from the little i've heard, basically sounds like a fairly straightforward - but large - querying problem.
  • 2009.07.22 21:15: @craigg75 you guys might be better off with a non-relational data backend ...
  • 2009.07.22 21:15: @craigg75
    linq on sql does have a performance hit, but linq with object collections, is zero hit
    sure.
  • 2009.07.22 21:18: @craigg75
    but like I said this project is starting to turn into dual personalties, I'm using new tech and the other prog'r is still using old tech
    tough 'nanners, ya fall behind, ya get left behind...
  • 2009.07.22 21:18: @craigg75
    but like I said this project is starting to turn into dual personalties, I'm using new tech and the other prog'r is still using old tech
    sounds like grounds for probation, honestly. best for everyone involved.
  • 2009.07.22 21:19: i could see that project flyin' on something like amazon's web services ...
  • 2009.07.22 21:19: there's lots of good emerging tech perfectly suited for that, it seems
  • 2009.07.22 21:20: @craigg75
    well at some point the boss needs to make a decision, do we stick with older tech or send her to class to get up to speed
    "class" har. Harrr ! HA_hahahahahhaaaahaa !! whew thanks ;-)
  • 2009.07.22 21:22: @craigg75
    we currently have 3 million specimen records and at times we are hitting sql server limits with all the joining we do
    serious need for re-architecting, there.
  • 2009.07.22 21:22: @craigg75
    we currently have 3 million specimen records and at times we are hitting sql server limits with all the joining we do
    you've been keeping up on that "nosql" business ?
  • 2009.07.22 21:24: @craigg75
    so yeah I've wondered about other data solutions but I'm weak when it comes to data storage systems
    emerging tech - doesn't mater - educate yourself, you're not far behind.
  • 2009.07.22 21:24: @craigg75
    so yeah I've wondered about other data solutions but I'm weak when it comes to data storage systems
    or, yeah, like i could offer my services ... but i've heard opinion on that before :-p
  • 2009.07.22 21:26: @craigg75
    i don't know what I'd do if I ever lost my "Sample SQL.txt" file I use as a cheat sheet..lol
    i think you'd find this new stuff more to your liking - it's more natural object-like, less of a sql flavor.
  • 2009.07.22 21:26: @craigg75
    i don't know what I'd do if I ever lost my "Sample SQL.txt" file I use as a cheat sheet..lol
    lots of distribted parallelism to consider, however. life gets interesting.
  • 2009.07.22 21:27: @craigg75
    i don't know what I'd do if I ever lost my "Sample SQL.txt" file I use as a cheat sheet..lol
    now, i like sql & relational db theory / practice. but it's nice to have options.
  • 2009.07.22 21:34: i'm going to start using the oldest language synonyms i can for a while. because. just because.
  • 2009.07.22 21:35: @craigg75
    umm.. your services.. yeeeeahh... hmmm... you were mentioning popcorn hour earlier? ;-)
    woo-hooo ! ;-)
  • 2009.07.22 21:36: @craigg75
    umm.. your services.. yeeeeahh... hmmm... you were mentioning popcorn hour earlier? ;-)
    but seriously, you haven't worked with me in years. last few, the other devs have been just fine. but i'm- a bit beyond them, yeah
  • 2009.07.22 21:37: @craigg75
    umm.. your services.. yeeeeahh... hmmm... you were mentioning popcorn hour earlier? ;-)
    on the other hand, that's just where you find yourselves. oh well, preconceptions are a killer. for me, not you
  • 2009.07.22 21:43: recent newsletter mailing subject line: "Career Watch: How's Your Job Satisfaction?" - um, like - seen the economy lately ?
  • 2009.07.22 21:43: @craigg75
    for u @fractalnavel -- RT @jennyholzer: A STRONG SENSE OF DUTY IMPRISONS YOU
    yup. just ask frodo ;-)
  • 2009.07.22 21:57: geez- 20:00 utc already?! time to sit out front in my folding canvas chair to watch the twilight gather under the clouds & rain - with beer.
  • 2009.07.22 21:59: .@swadeshine "the new phone book is here! the new phone book is here!" -- nathan johnson
  • 2009.07.22 22:17: @SowaJF
    @fractalnavel kathy wonders, do you need a twitter patch?
    am i leaking ? oh - "psssstt..." - i guess so ... but funny - i just posted that in a forum somewhere else ;-)
  • 2009.07.22 22:18: @SowaJF
    @fractalnavel kathy wonders, do you need a twitter patch?
    http://bit.ly/3cGcE2
  • 2009.07.22 22:29: walked into the fancy beer etc store last friday. wine tasting in progress. over-perfumed women looking down their noses at me. i had beer
  • 2009.07.22 22:29: i think to myself "... but in the morning, i'll be sober..."
  • 2009.07.23 01:02: pathetic: please answer in the form of a question.
  • 2009.07.23 01:02: zip's for burger(s), i think
(pulled direct from twitter via custom job)
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Tuesday, July 21, 2009

a day in a life 2009.07.21

via @fractalnavel: in the last 24 hours:
  • 2009.07.21 13:04: @jdhunt
    Today is a day of celebration - the baby AND the dog slept through the night!
    but perhaps you didn't, if you noticed ?
  • 2009.07.21 13:07: the music festivals of the 60s-70s were commercialized into the spring breaks of the 80s onward.
  • 2009.07.21 13:07: there isn't anything big business won't take from us.
  • 2009.07.21 13:12: must be morning: smell of coffee, and fresh ground n00bs on the forums.
  • 2009.07.21 13:13: yeah, some digital napalm would work wonders. oh, @craigg75 - you're good at this - want to torch some folks ?
  • 2009.07.21 13:20: peeve: it's "seAmless", you morons, not "seEmless"! [i seem to have received @craigg75 's flamethrower in the mail - says: "open at seams".]
  • 2009.07.21 13:21: "seemless" - i believe that would be "...NOT to be"
  • 2009.07.21 13:26: community maintained communityserver: guess all those who would have cared moved on already. do you want to whine or do you want a solution?
  • 2009.07.21 13:28: not sure i can trust any consultant who describes a manually operated batch process as "seemless" - no, not the word - manual batch !
  • 2009.07.21 13:30: [let's see - boots - steel toes - pointy - ahh, there they are ...]
  • 2009.07.21 13:48: @jdhunt
    @fractalnavel
    @jdhunt
    Today is a day of celebration - the baby AND the dog slept through the night!
    but perhaps you didn't, if you noticed ?
    Well, neither one woke me up... so maybe I should be more specific in that I slept through the night.
    well, if no one's complaining and everyone's healthy - you're gold ;-)
  • 2009.07.21 14:00: @klaatu
    meritline.com - 25 Pack Optical Quantum 4x 25GB Blu-ray Disc (BD-R) $97 http://bit.ly/tXWRP Geez 25GB discs.
    yeah - where do you find the device to burn 'em - & read 'em ? 25x25 = 625GB for $97 is more than for hd space.
  • 2009.07.21 14:03: 8am - idiot out back starts something with a small gas engine. guns it - once, twice, three times. then nothing. gee thanks, rooster-man.
  • 2009.07.21 14:04: @klaatu
    Students who did well less likely to become entrepreneurs: http://om.ly/?BGUF More about entrepreneurship http://om.ly/?BGUG
    of course - our programs checked out, we're finely tuned little cogs in the machine.
  • 2009.07.21 14:05: @klaatu
    RT @RonPaulcom: Ron Paul’s Bill To Audit The Federal Reserve Now Has 275 Co-Sponsors in the House, and 17 Co-Sponsors in the Senate!
    did you ever listen to mr. paul on, say, meet the press ? the guy is one dangerous naive m.f.
  • 2009.07.21 14:06: shit - who knew - tuesday is "rip on everything" day.
  • 2009.07.21 14:08: @klaatu
    RT @popurls: Columbus wasn't the first; Experts confirm that Medieval map depicting America is authentic http://pop.ly/2f9i
    yes, but haven't they been saying this for decades now ?
  • 2009.07.21 14:27: @craigg75
    RT @RonPaulcom: Poll: Should Congress Abolish the Federal Reserve? http://bit.ly/2eBLmp
    imagine the banking system as a protracted war: can you just walk out overnight? still good to end it, but you need a plan- & time
  • 2009.07.21 14:30: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    RT @RonPaulcom: Ron Paul’s Bill To Audit The Federal Reserve Now Has 275 Co-Sponsors in the House, and 17 Co-Sponsors in the Senate!
    did you ever listen to mr. paul on, say, meet the press ? the guy is one dangerous naive m.f.
    I don't think Ron Paul is as naive as you think. Dangerous? What makes you say that? I think Ted Kennedy is far more Dangerous
    he has no mind for consequences, dismisses them.
  • 2009.07.21 14:31: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    RT @RonPaulcom: Ron Paul’s Bill To Audit The Federal Reserve Now Has 275 Co-Sponsors in the House, and 17 Co-Sponsors in the Senate!
    did you ever listen to mr. paul on, say, meet the press ? the guy is one dangerous naive m.f.
    I don't think Ron Paul is as naive as you think. Dangerous? What makes you say that? I think Ted Kennedy is far more Dangerous
    kennedy ? a non-issue. but let's see, 60s - 70s: the only harm done was allowing the gop to run things. sorry.
  • 2009.07.21 14:34: @klaatu
    Bob Chapman explains Goldman Sachs code theft & how GS used said code to screw billions out of every stock trade a penny at a time.
    isn't that the classic computer theft scenario ? no person could get away with it, but certainly institutions could - so did
  • 2009.07.21 14:34: @klaatu
    Bob Chapman explains Goldman Sachs code theft & how GS used said code to screw billions out of every stock trade a penny at a time.
    eh, it's an undocumented fee. they would have gotten it from us one way or another. just more of the same old shit
  • 2009.07.21 14:37: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    RT @popurls: Columbus wasn't the first; Experts confirm that Medieval map depicting America is authentic http://pop.ly/2f9i
    yes, but haven't they been saying this for decades now ?
    I've been saying it since gradeschool, finally the vinland map gets authenticated so they can't shush us up anymore.
    never was clear why the columbus myth was so important to everyone
  • 2009.07.21 14:43: @klaatu
    Yale researchers create database-Hadoop hybrid http://bit.ly/17riVS
    ooh - that's a model-breaker. cloud computing platforms like gae don't support rdbms; this could help change that.
  • 2009.07.21 14:58: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    Bob Chapman explains Goldman Sachs code theft & how GS used said code to screw billions out of every stock trade a penny at a time.
    isn't that the classic computer theft scenario ? no person could get away with it, but certainly institutions could - so did
    If they did it w/o a trade it'd be obviously illegal, the trade hides that but they shouldn't be able to delay your trades.
    i guess i'm looking at the pragmatics, not the legalisms.
  • 2009.07.21 14:59: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    Bob Chapman explains Goldman Sachs code theft & how GS used said code to screw billions out of every stock trade a penny at a time.
    isn't that the classic computer theft scenario ? no person could get away with it, but certainly institutions could - so did
    I read Livermore's book on robber barron trading B4 any regulation & GS's tactic is that oldschool & was why regs came to be!
    people kid themselves with their comfy "regulations", like childrens' bedside prayers. or religion.
  • 2009.07.21 15:01: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel RonPaul: Sometime you have to be brave & cut the infection out. Take a short term hit for long term health as it were.
    nice sound bite.
  • 2009.07.21 15:01: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    RT @RonPaulcom: Ron Paul’s Bill To Audit The Federal Reserve Now Has 275 Co-Sponsors in the House, and 17 Co-Sponsors in the Senate!
    did you ever listen to mr. paul on, say, meet the press ? the guy is one dangerous naive m.f.
    I don't think Ron Paul is as naive as you think. Dangerous? What makes you say that? I think Ted Kennedy is far more Dangerous
    he has no mind for consequences, dismisses them.
    RonPaul: I think a lot of those consequences you fear are setup to keep status quo scams going without interference.
    not what i'm after: transitions are important.
  • 2009.07.21 15:02: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    Bob Chapman explains Goldman Sachs code theft & how GS used said code to screw billions out of every stock trade a penny at a time.
    isn't that the classic computer theft scenario ? no person could get away with it, but certainly institutions could - so did
    If they did it w/o a trade it'd be obviously illegal, the trade hides that but they shouldn't be able to delay your trades.
    i guess i'm looking at the pragmatics, not the legalisms.
    pragmatics: its like buying gas but the pump doesn't start until the price rises a bit.
    and yet you still have to buy the gas. suck it up. regs ? not in paul's world.
  • 2009.07.21 15:03: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    Bob Chapman explains Goldman Sachs code theft & how GS used said code to screw billions out of every stock trade a penny at a time.
    isn't that the classic computer theft scenario ? no person could get away with it, but certainly institutions could - so did
    If they did it w/o a trade it'd be obviously illegal, the trade hides that but they shouldn't be able to delay your trades.
    i guess i'm looking at the pragmatics, not the legalisms.
    pragmatics: its like buying gas but the pump doesn't start until the price rises a bit.
    that's no different than when i pull in anyway. ignore the damn signs, you need what you need. it's why fuel needs to be a utility
  • 2009.07.21 15:05: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel pragmatics: Also it creates a fake stat on mkt volatility akin to fake interest in the stocks where few are really trading.
    is there a rule that there are no unwritten rules ? i don't have a lot of sympathy for any speculative investor
  • 2009.07.21 15:06: "wall street", the movie: is greed good ?
  • 2009.07.21 15:08: until we rid ourselves of this "every man for himself, anything goes" attitude, it's, well - every man for himself, anything goes.
  • 2009.07.21 15:10: @craigg75
    RT @klaatu: RonPaul: Sometime you have to be brave & cut the infection out. Take a short term hit for long term health as it were.
    ahh, let's see, who will make the cut - is it you ? or you ? come on now, i want to see volunteers. someone deserves it.
  • 2009.07.21 15:11: example: is the sacrifice paying taxes, or not paying taxes ? depends on what you consider worth sacrificing.
  • 2009.07.21 15:12: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    Bob Chapman explains Goldman Sachs code theft & how GS used said code to screw billions out of every stock trade a penny at a time.
    isn't that the classic computer theft scenario ? no person could get away with it, but certainly institutions could - so did
    I read Livermore's book on robber barron trading B4 any regulation & GS's tactic is that oldschool & was why regs came to be!
    people kid themselves with their comfy "regulations", like childrens' bedside prayers. or religion.
    regs: yeah, read Livermore's book 2C how pre-reg was even more scam infested times http://bit.ly/4gXD0 http://bit.ly/nsqXq
    of course. welcome to paul's world. then again, it's just piranha feeding on wanna-be piranhas. to the detriment of the pond.
  • 2009.07.21 15:14: @klaatu
    "Confessions of An Economic Hit Man" soon a movie?? http://bit.ly/Fw4HR
    thing is, these folks are sort-of anti-heroes: everyone wants to be them - and get away with it, of course.
  • 2009.07.21 15:16: how many americans support only enough taxes / social programs to soothe their consciences, but no more ? not tied to prevailing need at all
  • 2009.07.21 15:17: @klaatu
    The market does not beat them. They beat themselves, because though they have brains they cannot sit tight. -- Livermore on Self Control
    applies to getting into a market in the first place, too.
  • 2009.07.21 15:19: likewise with "reforms": people support those proposals that they feel they will be on the winning side of.
  • 2009.07.21 15:20: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel once again you are off topic, the issue was Ron Paul
    ah, yes - frame the question into a box. what is ron pauls's context ? oh look, this grain of sand - please ignore the mountain
  • 2009.07.21 15:21: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel and his disdain for the Federal REserve
    um - what ? some might say that i've been supporting it. but against it ? no, neither is true. it's a symptom.
  • 2009.07.21 15:24: taxes- reforms- social responsibility- markets - greed - banking - regulation: you can't deal with any of these in isolation from the others
  • 2009.07.21 15:27: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    Bob Chapman explains Goldman Sachs code theft & how GS used said code to screw billions out of every stock trade a penny at a time.
    isn't that the classic computer theft scenario ? no person could get away with it, but certainly institutions could - so did
    If they did it w/o a trade it'd be obviously illegal, the trade hides that but they shouldn't be able to delay your trades.
    i guess i'm looking at the pragmatics, not the legalisms.
    pragmatics: its like buying gas but the pump doesn't start until the price rises a bit.
    that's no different than when i pull in anyway. ignore the damn signs, you need what you need. it's why fuel needs to be a utility
    But what if you were buying a LOT of fuel & those bogus price swings were like the monthly $20/bbl 1's we've seen.
    exactly the point. driven by: market speculation. driven by: greed. reforms? lots of ways. removing contraints? not one of them.
  • 2009.07.21 15:28: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel enuf to change your desire to buy fuel in the 1st place. Sure U can lump it 4 chump changes, but when the hits signif U change
    and then you eventually get a rising tide of "disadvantaged" who can no longer buy fuel. but - our society also demands that you do.
  • 2009.07.21 15:29: @craigg75
    should I eat this apple, well lets consider the tree, the sunlight used to make it, the guy who picked it, am I abusing them? is t wasteful?
    as a matter of fact: yes.
  • 2009.07.21 15:30: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel pragmatics: Also it creates a fake stat on mkt volatility akin to fake interest in the stocks where few are really trading.
    is there a rule that there are no unwritten rules ? i don't have a lot of sympathy for any speculative investor
    What kind of investing ISN'T speculative? really. Its a valuation game but when the house cheats it stops being a game.
    i guess it comes down to the purpose of the speculation.
  • 2009.07.21 15:32: @craigg75
    sometimes an apple is just an apple freud...
    entropy. whatever lives, destroys. at which point i'm at a loss. i don't want to pull "morals" into this. damn worm cans...
  • 2009.07.21 15:35: just hit my paradoxical dead end: it always seems to come to an issue of values - and yet values are arbitrary. always get stuck there.
  • 2009.07.21 15:37: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel generalizing arguments means you either don't understand the issue or can't debate it.. FAIL
    generalization: also known as the inventor's paradox:to solve a specific problem, solve the more general one of which it is a part
  • 2009.07.21 15:38: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel generalizing arguments means you either don't understand the issue or can't debate it.. FAIL
    fail ? on the contrary, i've used that technique successfully in - just about everything. math, physics, programming, design, ...
  • 2009.07.21 15:41: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel pragmatics: Also it creates a fake stat on mkt volatility akin to fake interest in the stocks where few are really trading.
    is there a rule that there are no unwritten rules ? i don't have a lot of sympathy for any speculative investor
    What kind of investing ISN'T speculative? really. Its a valuation game but when the house cheats it stops being a game.
    i guess it comes down to the purpose of the speculation.
    The stolen GS code let them precog 5 secs into the "future" by delaying every1 else's "Now" 5 secs. ergo gaming the system.
    and yet who wouldn't do the same if given the chance ? and won't people always be trying to create similar chances ?
  • 2009.07.21 15:42: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel pragmatics: Also it creates a fake stat on mkt volatility akin to fake interest in the stocks where few are really trading.
    is there a rule that there are no unwritten rules ? i don't have a lot of sympathy for any speculative investor
    What kind of investing ISN'T speculative? really. Its a valuation game but when the house cheats it stops being a game.
    i guess it comes down to the purpose of the speculation.
    exactly, w/o regs OR insane SELF-reg'd we get the scams hyper condensed till every day risks a mkt collapse.
    no solution in the markets or regs themselves: the root of the problem lies outside that solution space: in human nature.
  • 2009.07.21 15:44: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel pragmatics: Also it creates a fake stat on mkt volatility akin to fake interest in the stocks where few are really trading.
    is there a rule that there are no unwritten rules ? i don't have a lot of sympathy for any speculative investor
    What kind of investing ISN'T speculative? really. Its a valuation game but when the house cheats it stops being a game.
    i guess it comes down to the purpose of the speculation.
    Its the same "regs" reason that TV shows stocks 15 min delayed, filter the ripples, try to estab a mkt value for the day.
    well, there is another issue: removing what used to be impicit buffers from the system breaks it. they need to be back in some form
  • 2009.07.21 15:46: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel if we followed your logic we would still be in caves deciding the morality of killing the saber-tooth tiger waiting outside
    a time & place for everything; phases, eh ? but in a sense, you're right. and that is done today.
  • 2009.07.21 15:48: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel if we followed your logic we would still be in caves deciding the morality of killing the saber-tooth tiger waiting outside
    thing is - there is no "morality". just a collection of practical considerations - often complex & extended ones.
  • 2009.07.21 15:49: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel put down the pin, there are no angels dancing on it... leave navel grazing for the philosophers
    and what am i, if not that ? besides, i beleive "navel grazing" is for the porn thread ;-) nice typo
  • 2009.07.21 15:50: complex practical considerations: it's the problem "morality" & "ehtics" evolved to solve - shortcuts, heuristics, rules of thumb.
  • 2009.07.21 15:51: @craigg75 didn't you just watch that bill maher interview on evolution of religion ? what did he have to say on that ?
  • 2009.07.21 15:54: aaand back to ron paul: i generally agree with his principals, but not his methods. but really, i haven't seen enough detail to say.
  • 2009.07.21 15:55: @craigg75
    it was a bill moyers interview and he didn't consider the lillies in reference to our broken financial system
    but of evolution of god ? main points ?
  • 2009.07.21 15:57: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel So now we're back in Plato's cave wondering if your take on human nature clouds the solutionspace with shadows of FAIL.
    going to take me a moment to parse that ...
  • 2009.07.21 15:58: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel So now we're back in Plato's cave wondering if your take on human nature clouds the solutionspace with shadows of FAIL.
    not even limited to "human" nature, i guess. it's an essential part of a physical universe. still putting those pieces together.
  • 2009.07.21 16:01: oh, sure- i recognize that my discussion has wandered all over. sometimes to see the shape of something you have to go beyond it. well, i do
  • 2009.07.21 16:01: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel pragmatics: Also it creates a fake stat on mkt volatility akin to fake interest in the stocks where few are really trading.
    is there a rule that there are no unwritten rules ? i don't have a lot of sympathy for any speculative investor
    What kind of investing ISN'T speculative? really. Its a valuation game but when the house cheats it stops being a game.
    i guess it comes down to the purpose of the speculation.
    Its the same "regs" reason that TV shows stocks 15 min delayed, filter the ripples, try to estab a mkt value for the day.
    well, there is another issue: removing what used to be impicit buffers from the system breaks it. they need to be back in some form
    Geez, implicit buffers now are good, this thread started w/GS code bypassing 'em 4 gain. Full Circle time again.
    yeah, funny how that works out ;-)
  • 2009.07.21 16:03: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel pragmatics: Also it creates a fake stat on mkt volatility akin to fake interest in the stocks where few are really trading.
    is there a rule that there are no unwritten rules ? i don't have a lot of sympathy for any speculative investor
    What kind of investing ISN'T speculative? really. Its a valuation game but when the house cheats it stops being a game.
    i guess it comes down to the purpose of the speculation.
    Its the same "regs" reason that TV shows stocks 15 min delayed, filter the ripples, try to estab a mkt value for the day.
    well, there is another issue: removing what used to be impicit buffers from the system breaks it. they need to be back in some form
    Geez, implicit buffers now are good, this thread started w/GS code bypassing 'em 4 gain. Full Circle time again.
    thing is, you can't cure the motivation to sidestep that, now that it's possible. and unfortunately, it's not good to give to all
  • 2009.07.21 16:04: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel my point exactly, you don't understand the issue and hence you head for the clouds where there are no real answers
    no - i just see a far more complex issue before me. i can't ignore the connections. sometimes it's the "blind" who are gifted...
  • 2009.07.21 16:09: so what's the limited, focused issue, then ? how to fix a broken financial system ? no - the illegal actions of a particular player ?
  • 2009.07.21 16:10: issue: using an audit to get a better grasp on the actions of perhaps the major player in recent economic debacles
  • 2009.07.21 16:12: and should the system of values used to evaluate the wisdom of such an undertaking be contrained as well? doesn't that give you an answer?
  • 2009.07.21 16:13: it seems to me that any forgone conclusion is suspect. so i look for what the contraints are trying to keep me from.
  • 2009.07.21 16:15: @craigg75
    Nazi fringe groups are always an interesting read... racial hatred is genetic.. there's a good head in the clouds topic @fractalnavel :)
    old, boring, simple, actually. now, socialengineering, that's a topic ;-) but isn't that what we've been talking about ?
  • 2009.07.21 16:16: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel pragmatics: Also it creates a fake stat on mkt volatility akin to fake interest in the stocks where few are really trading.
    is there a rule that there are no unwritten rules ? i don't have a lot of sympathy for any speculative investor
    What kind of investing ISN'T speculative? really. Its a valuation game but when the house cheats it stops being a game.
    i guess it comes down to the purpose of the speculation.
    Its the same "regs" reason that TV shows stocks 15 min delayed, filter the ripples, try to estab a mkt value for the day.
    well, there is another issue: removing what used to be impicit buffers from the system breaks it. they need to be back in some form
    Geez, implicit buffers now are good, this thread started w/GS code bypassing 'em 4 gain. Full Circle time again.
    thing is, you can't cure the motivation to sidestep that, now that it's possible. and unfortunately, it's not good to give to all
    forget give 2 all, point is GS shouldn't of had it+2 hide their cheat they sick'd feds on the pgmr when he left. Media quiet 2
    agreed. i'm just not surprised, and i think this particular instance of gross misdeed would have been accomplished in any case.
  • 2009.07.21 16:18: what does surprise me, which i think is your point- how are these and so many other rich bastards getting away with it? well, they're rich
  • 2009.07.21 16:20: anywho, @klaatu @craigg75 , i appreciate the chance to stretch those "muscles" a bit. still so much work to be done there.
  • 2009.07.21 16:21: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel pragmatics: Also it creates a fake stat on mkt volatility akin to fake interest in the stocks where few are really trading.
    is there a rule that there are no unwritten rules ? i don't have a lot of sympathy for any speculative investor
    What kind of investing ISN'T speculative? really. Its a valuation game but when the house cheats it stops being a game.
    i guess it comes down to the purpose of the speculation.
    Its the same "regs" reason that TV shows stocks 15 min delayed, filter the ripples, try to estab a mkt value for the day.
    well, there is another issue: removing what used to be impicit buffers from the system breaks it. they need to be back in some form
    Geez, implicit buffers now are good, this thread started w/GS code bypassing 'em 4 gain. Full Circle time again.
    thing is, you can't cure the motivation to sidestep that, now that it's possible. and unfortunately, it's not good to give to all
    forget give 2 all, point is GS shouldn't of had it+2 hide their cheat they sick'd feds on the pgmr when he left. Media quiet 2
    @craigg75 jefferson had it right, about banks, corporate entities & government. hard to close pandora's box, though.
  • 2009.07.21 16:24: @craigg75
    cloud topic -- rich ppl avoidance of social responsibility .. and ovoids...
    i ask again: the focused topic is ?
  • 2009.07.21 16:26: is it possible to focus too narrowly on something, perhaps ?
  • 2009.07.21 16:34: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    it seems to me that any forgone conclusion is suspect. so i look for what the contraints are trying to keep me from.
    Ah, but how can UC what the constraints are keeping you from if they are WORKING & hiding the subjects from you?
    rumsfeld's "unknown unknowns". yep, that's the reason for constantly searching, questioning everything. every now & then: a glimpse
  • 2009.07.21 16:35: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    it seems to me that any forgone conclusion is suspect. so i look for what the contraints are trying to keep me from.
    It seems U can only see faulty failing constraints or ones that don't completely hide from view the subject matter it limits.
    i'd want to consider this in the context of philosophy of science & causation.
  • 2009.07.21 16:36: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    it seems to me that any forgone conclusion is suspect. so i look for what the contraints are trying to keep me from.
    It seems U can only see faulty failing constraints or ones that don't completely hide from view the subject matter it limits.
    it may be that "constraints" - aren't. they may be inherently "faulty". something to consider, anyway. not sure i agree with this
  • 2009.07.21 16:37: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    it seems to me that any forgone conclusion is suspect. so i look for what the contraints are trying to keep me from.
    It seems U can only see faulty failing constraints or ones that don't completely hide from view the subject matter it limits.
    in fact - don't constraints actually point you towards things ? think "freedom", and the surrounding propaganda...
  • 2009.07.21 16:38: ... as long as we don't see the bars, we're happy.
  • 2009.07.21 16:39: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    it seems to me that any forgone conclusion is suspect. so i look for what the contraints are trying to keep me from.
    It seems U can only see faulty failing constraints or ones that don't completely hide from view the subject matter it limits.
    ... and so training (aka "education") is critical to maintaining a complacent populace - they would struggle if the felt their bonds
  • 2009.07.21 16:42: (this one's for @craigg75) .. all of existence is predicated on the concept of boundaries, difference - the "other"
  • 2009.07.21 16:42: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    cloud topic -- rich ppl avoidance of social responsibility .. and ovoids...
    I think an ovoid ate fractalnavel's brain & took over. Need 2 write an ovoid specific Voight-Kampf test.
    lol - fine then...
  • 2009.07.21 16:44: [...i knew that damn green ovoid was up to no good...]
  • 2009.07.21 16:47: @craigg75
    @klaatu @fractalnavel gave up tv and it's starting to show :)
    you know - that's true - see what happens when mind control is removed ? not good, not good - i long for soma...
  • 2009.07.21 16:49: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    it seems to me that any forgone conclusion is suspect. so i look for what the contraints are trying to keep me from.
    It seems U can only see faulty failing constraints or ones that don't completely hide from view the subject matter it limits.
    ... and so training (aka "education") is critical to maintaining a complacent populace - they would struggle if the felt their bonds
    constraints=bars but we don't see any bars ergo no constraints. Here, take this blue pill now.
    um, not quite. ergo we don't see them. all pretty circular. but the consequence is that we don't act either.
  • 2009.07.21 16:50: on a practical note; they aren't constraints if you never run into them. so why go looking for them ? this is where it gets interesting.
  • 2009.07.21 16:52: so yes - constraints are contextual.
  • 2009.07.21 16:53: @klaatu
    RT @BreakingNews: In a 58-40 vote, the U.S. Senate has removed $1.75 billion from a defense policy bill to build 7 F-22 Raptors.
    maan - the toys are the only fun things we had left !
  • 2009.07.21 16:56: @craigg75 @klaatu so in conclusion: i may be in la-la land, OR you may be, um, 'constrained'. also, that's a continuum.
  • 2009.07.21 16:57: @klaatu
    When did BFF go from Best Female Friend to Best Friends Forevar? It sounds like lesbionic valley speak... Or a topless mud wrestling league.
    i thought it had always been the second interpretation...
  • 2009.07.21 17:33: ovoid avoidance check: i missed the most dangerous one in the vicinity - the hairy one that sits on top my neck.
  • 2009.07.21 17:38: telligentcommunity last straw & final nail - no sdk: http://u.nu/9jem ; you need to read that, it's phenomenal piece of corporate bullshit.
  • 2009.07.21 17:38: there are some outright lies in there about historical policies & practices.
  • 2009.07.21 17:43: now, that's a perfectly normal position, and even generous, for your runof themill proprietary software package.
  • 2009.07.21 17:44: but communityserver succeeded in large part because it was not "runof themill". emphasis on the past tense.
  • 2009.07.21 17:45: @klaatu
    Shouldn't the Jap PM commit sepuku or something? http://bit.ly/25Q9HE wow you can see the big scar the ovoid made when it entered his brain.
    the ovoid is the brain.
  • 2009.07.21 17:47: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel why don't you just request a SDK license? or are they just BS'ng everyone?
    i'm not a "customer or partner". i wonder if they talked to the partners about any of this ahead of time? not from what i've seen
  • 2009.07.21 17:52: @craigg75
    Sen. Byrd is still alive?! and he's still a senator?! we are so doomed...
    aww, come on, let the geezer have his fun ;-)
  • 2009.07.21 17:54: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel communityserver is a bit like those 70's mega concerts, communal fun taken over by big business.. Kill the rich.. :P
    thing is, i recommended that product as a key part of project architectures predicated on continued availability of the sdk
  • 2009.07.21 17:56: back when telligent was formed, they specfically assured the open source community that the "core" source code would remain available
  • 2009.07.21 17:57: this was done in part to placate the communities of the respective sub-applications that cs was created from. why? because they needed them!
  • 2009.07.21 17:59: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel was anyone able to branch the code? or was there some funky license involved?
    no, it was not "open", only "shared". my guess is they're going to retcon the past licenses, invalidating maint. of old versions.
  • 2009.07.21 18:00: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel lesson learned.. nothing is free forever
    yeah; i was taken in by hopes and a few years of kept promises.
  • 2009.07.21 18:06: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel lesson learned.. nothing is free forever
    upon further thought: "free", my ass- this was part of the value being purchased. no ticky, no washy.(or is that phrase tabu now?)
  • 2009.07.21 18:10: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel the "shared" code should have tipped you off that it wasn't a good long term model?
    there were intitial concerns, but they kept faith, and most reservations dissipated
  • 2009.07.21 18:12: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel the "shared" code should have tipped you off that it wasn't a good long term model?
    but no, even "shared" there were no hints they would ever pull the plug, and in fact made aassurances to the contrary
  • 2009.07.21 18:14: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel the "shared" code should have tipped you off that it wasn't a good long term model?
    eye opener about any software product. what can be done ? just this: can't trust this particular one anymore.
  • 2009.07.21 18:15: i guess the argument is that, those choosing to continue to put their faith in this - business - are doing themselves & everyone a disfavor.
  • 2009.07.21 18:19: @craigg75
    "she promised she would stay open to me.. now she lives with a rich banker on the hill <rickity door closes quietly.. fade to black>"
    back when this started, i had mentally composed a letter along those lines: "... i don't even recognize you anymore!"
  • 2009.07.21 18:21: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel back to your "every man for himself" argument.. no social decency left in the business world
    (1) was there ever ? (2) wait - are you - generalizing ?! sorry for the infection, dude. check yer ovoid fer damage.
  • 2009.07.21 18:44: @klaatu
    Feds Prepare To Tax Toilet Paper In Name Of Climate Change http://ur1.ca/7nfa
    literally taxing the shit out of us, eh ?
  • 2009.07.21 20:57: @klaatu
    Cap N Trade will act as an extra 20% tax to you, So will Obama's healthcare plan. ummm, 75-80% total tax load, hello socialism.
    why is "socialism" a dirty word ?
  • 2009.07.21 20:59: @klaatu
    Cap N Trade will act as an extra 20% tax to you, So will Obama's healthcare plan. ummm, 75-80% total tax load, hello socialism.
    also, it's also necessary to determine whether a tax is regressive or progressive when evaluating its socio-political effects
  • 2009.07.21 21:00: @klaatu
    Cap N Trade will act as an extra 20% tax to you, So will Obama's healthcare plan. ummm, 75-80% total tax load, hello socialism.
    highly regressive taxes are typically not socialistic
  • 2009.07.21 21:01: @craigg75
    I have no issues with socialism, I just don't think a country our size would do it efficiently and it would fail all over the place
    oh, shit - we can't seem to do anything right, really. and yep, to suceed, there would be a lot of needed groundwork first
  • 2009.07.21 21:02: @craigg75
    I have no issues with socialism, I just don't think a country our size would do it efficiently and it would fail all over the place
    good point on size. much analysis needs doing on scaling of various systems and their components
  • 2009.07.21 21:03: am i a software developer or a f*ing lawyer ? : http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986
  • 2009.07.21 21:05: @craigg75
    I wonder if this country would ever accept the mindset of socialism. It requires a more caring for your neighbor attitude
    or - something. i don't know - are the people really more caring in more socialistic systems ? or is it something else ?
  • 2009.07.21 21:06: @craigg75
    I wonder if this country would ever accept the mindset of socialism. It requires a more caring for your neighbor attitude
    but i think there are other cultural attitudes here that probably preclude adoption of some very workable socialism solutions
  • 2009.07.21 21:07: @klaatu
    Commercial Real Estate is down 20% it won't bottom out until its down 70%, expect another bubble 2 burst
    where's that goddam ark when you need it ?
  • 2009.07.21 21:08: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel the downside is of course less entrepreneurial spirit
    so it is said. well - is there an optimum trade-off point, do ya think ?
  • 2009.07.21 21:09: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel I've studied socialist societies (that work, not the authoritarian ones) and it seems to me there is more of a sharing attitud
    sometimes it seems like some sort of group entitlement, mass-mind thing instead - which i think is (part of) what americans fear
  • 2009.07.21 21:10: i think that earlier rfc comment should have been more along the lines of "dammit, jim - i'm a coder, not a lawyer!"
  • 2009.07.21 21:12: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel good question.. I don't know. Private enterprise still triumphs over state services even in a socialist country
    i dunno - some of the european health systems seem to outdo the private sector in the same field. but not all industries are alike
  • 2009.07.21 21:13: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel good question.. I don't know. Private enterprise still triumphs over state services even in a socialist country
    but yeah, i think in the majority of cases that that's correct. it does seem that there's still a lot of room for improvement.
  • 2009.07.21 21:15: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel good question.. I don't know. Private enterprise still triumphs over state services even in a socialist country
    but - consider open source. what's that ? and ideas surrounding a "gift economy". yep, there are still options to be tried
  • 2009.07.21 21:21: someone's really been slammin' on the service today. just one single %^&$(ing encoding error... i swear i'll get this figured out - someday
  • 2009.07.21 21:23: error rate so far is a bit less than 0.02% (99.98% success) - excluding the one gae downtime event, which added another 0.1% or so.
  • 2009.07.21 22:12: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    I wonder if this country would ever accept the mindset of socialism. It requires a more caring for your neighbor attitude
    socialism requires not caring but a "I am my brother's keeper" attitude & an "(only) I know whats best for YOU" ego.
    socialism doesn't necessarily translate into a nanny state, although admittedly it often does in practice.
  • 2009.07.21 22:14: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    @fractalnavel I've studied socialist societies (that work, not the authoritarian ones) and it seems to me there is more of a sharing attitud
    Which is why socalism doesn't scale, hi fixed cost while desired use declines. Eventually U all hit the "paying for nothing" zone.
    oh, shoot - i've been doing that here for years. i want everyone else to do the same ;-) - need an eviler emoticon than that
  • 2009.07.21 22:15: @klaatu
    @craigg75
    I wonder if this country would ever accept the mindset of socialism. It requires a more caring for your neighbor attitude
    socialism requires not caring but a "I am my brother's keeper" attitude & an "(only) I know whats best for YOU" ego.
    the solution is like a ski area: if you're out of bounds, you're on your own, or only if we feel like coming to get you.
  • 2009.07.21 22:19: irony bugs: when your error handlers have them.
  • 2009.07.21 23:24: weird bug: someone had a misplaced '&' in a querystring, shifted utf-8 data into the parameter name which wasn't being encoded. is now
  • 2009.07.21 23:25: of course, i could have just left it at "if you give me crap, i'll give you shit"
  • 2009.07.21 23:25: best to eliminate herrings of any color, though
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Monday, July 20, 2009

a day in a life 2009.07.20

via @fractalnavel: in the last 24 hours:
  • 2009.07.20 14:00: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    so what would the planet look like if a crystalsphereslike quarantine (http://u.nu/5v2m) was applied to all emerging cultures ?
    Funny, I just listened to an mp3 of Brin reading that very story 2 hours ago.
    i read it a few weeks back, then listened to it in that "best of" collection. not brin reading though; that would be good.
    oh you're right its not Brin, got confused cause the Harlan Ellison I was listening to with it is in HE's voice.
    harlan does a better job than the "professionals" there. but then, he knows what the author had in mind.
  • 2009.07.20 14:10: why don't i ever see "aspirin" spam ?
  • 2009.07.20 15:10: @craigg75
    cvrap somebody is trying to hack into our blog
    what ?! oh wait - ok - at first glance i thought you said "someone is trying to hack up our dog". nebber mind.
  • 2009.07.20 15:11: @jdhunt
    Working on the build server has been a nice change of pace... perhaps even considered fun.
    infrastructure is key
  • 2009.07.20 15:39: @klaatu
    .@fractalnavel http://www.goofram.com/ google, wolfram, its two, two searches in one!
    hmm - iframing w|a will buy them trouble. i thought w|a had an api; better to use that.
  • 2009.07.20 16:22: @craigg75 - a proposition for telligent and the developer community re communityserver 2008.5: http://u.nu/7r6m - thoughts ?
  • 2009.07.20 16:55: @craigg75
    everybody! avoid ovoids!
    lol - thx - i'll keep that in mind :-)
  • 2009.07.20 16:57: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel good idea.. have to find a common repository to store all of the patches and enhancements.. perhaps that YOUR step one
    lots of ways to get that done. speaking of repositiories - whatever happened to all the contributed files on the cs site ? hmm.
  • 2009.07.20 17:06: [checks around] i appear to be living in an ovoid-free zone. wait a minute - there's one now ! and it's green !
  • 2009.07.20 21:42: thunder in a sunny sky... how strange
  • 2009.07.21 02:08: i love these stories: http://www.ozarkmusicfestival.com/wewerethere.htm ; i kinda feel sorry for us, now.
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Sunday, July 19, 2009

a day in a life 2009.07.19

via @fractalnavel: in the last 24 hours:
  • 2009.07.19 13:51: so only the u.s. has to suffer from that "syfy" mangling, eh ? didn't realize they had re-branded the website too
  • 2009.07.19 13:53: you can always tell how serious an economic downturn is by how stupid businesses get as they fire off workers and the management ratio rises
  • 2009.07.19 13:59: checking wayback machine - apparently that short story archive was to have been taken down two years ago. it stayed up anyway - until now
  • 2009.07.19 14:05: here they are: http://u.nu/2zxk. my old page scraper still works on that. should just capture a static copy; there will be no more changes.
  • 2009.07.19 14:07: really appalling treatment of a good collection of literature. thank fsm for the internet archive - which has been falling behind badly :-(
  • 2009.07.19 14:22: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    checking wayback machine - apparently that short story archive was to have been taken down two years ago. it stayed up anyway - until now
    I thought that we had already archived off scifi's Seeing Ear Theater eons ago. Does wayback or internet archive cache shows?
    the section i'm referring to is all textual material; i don't know about any a-v stuff. but yes, the IA does cache files - sometimes
  • 2009.07.19 14:23: @klaatu
    The easiest thing to be in the world is U. The most difficult thing 2b is what other people want U2 be. Don’t surrender leo buscaglia
    people only really want "ability" when their ass is on the line - me ;-)
  • 2009.07.19 14:26: IA's web section used to lag live sites by six months. that's up to 17 & rising now. i don't see anything newer than feb. 2008 anymore
  • 2009.07.19 14:27: @klaatu
    Ability will never catch up with the demand for it -- Confucius
    corollary: people are very bad at knowing when their asses are on the line.
  • 2009.07.19 14:29: @klaatu
    Goldman Sachs Raking in Massive Profits http://ur1.ca/7jkc
    wait - aren't we (the u.s.) stockholders ?
  • 2009.07.19 23:46: pathetic: feeling argumentative, with nothing to argue about. a moment made for self-destruct buttons.
  • 2009.07.19 23:47: well, ok, there's always something. but it's all deadhorsebeating.
  • 2009.07.19 23:48: can't decide which are more dangerous to the planet: manipulative bitches, or hysterical twits.
  • 2009.07.19 23:49: ht is back there playing soccer with her mouth. shut up & kick, dammit.
  • 2009.07.19 23:50: ...and so i sit here and ponder my own hysterical twitness...
  • 2009.07.19 23:51: projection is a fine defense mechanism, wot ?
  • 2009.07.19 23:59: self-awareness is death to the isolated critic.
  • 2009.07.19 23:59: ahh, there - self-destruct accomplished.
  • 2009.07.20 00:05: it seems vocabulary hit its zenith in the 19th century (earlier?); certainly the last few decades have seen its decline. mass media?
  • 2009.07.20 00:07: oh sure, lots of new words since then, but the vernacular has paradoxically shrunk. at least now we have twitter google bing yahoo! fah.
  • 2009.07.20 00:09: case in point: positively nuanced terms - everyone is an "athlete" or "hero". WRONG. but is the shortcoming here cultural or linguistic ?
  • 2009.07.20 00:10: ahh, i feel much better now; found something new to argue about. take that, ht ! ;-)
  • 2009.07.20 00:14: "Abort destruct sequence, code 12 3continuity"
  • 2009.07.20 00:35: in a kind of ecto-alzheimer's, i feel the world dropping away from me, due not to my own affliction, but that of the "collective"'s
  • 2009.07.20 00:38: so sure, at times, "schizophrenia" may simply be a consciousness stubbornly/courageously tracking it's own reality, damn the consensus
  • 2009.07.20 00:38: it's - its- gives me fits - give me a break ;-)
  • 2009.07.20 00:46: st multi-authorized self-detruct (or anything else) - wouldn't you want to go up the hierarchy, not down ? poor lt., has the final say.
  • 2009.07.20 01:36: so what would the planet look like if a crystalsphereslike quarantine (http://u.nu/5v2m) was applied to all emerging cultures ?
  • 2009.07.20 01:36: but "culture" is not atomic - how to decide what combinations to "protect" when ?
  • 2009.07.20 01:37: the one glaring oversight in "crystal spheres": emerged species would be placing sentinel devices outside all spheres.
  • 2009.07.20 01:39: and what if spheres had some sort of loiter-time / distance criteria ? warfare of the spheres ?
  • 2009.07.20 01:40: yeah, yeah - overthinking, what else is new :-p
  • 2009.07.20 01:44: i ask because it seems many cultures are trying to retroactively apply such measures
  • 2009.07.20 01:45: the root of all evil is the illusion of free will.
  • 2009.07.20 01:47: yeah, that's an imploding self-contradictory morass.
  • 2009.07.20 01:48: peeve: online dictionaries that don't put the definition in the meta-description (so they appear in search without needing a click-thru)
  • 2009.07.20 01:57: governmental non-interference directive: we're here if you need us, no strings attached. not quite. more like "... if you clear this hurdle"
  • 2009.07.20 01:58: [half tuna salad sub: strangely non-satisfying. blah.]
  • 2009.07.20 02:00: what's the point of *topian literature if you can't learn from it ? and where are the meta-government classes when you need them ?
  • 2009.07.20 02:06: "exo 815: applied meta-governmental studies. cr. 3, max 16. prereq: instr. approval. coreq: exo 816 (lab). creation, support, destruction."
  • 2009.07.20 02:09: advanced degree in meta-government allows cognate of beginning godhead, inter-disciplinary: phys, anthro, & fine arts.
  • 2009.07.20 02:10: i think fsm was a drop-out.
  • 2009.07.20 02:13: yeah, haven't heard much from "singularity u." lately. didn't shakespeare have a line for them ? well, "pretentious ass" will do in a pinch.
  • 2009.07.20 02:14: yes, i was forced to use "ass" & "pinch" in the same post.
  • 2009.07.20 02:26: i now return you to your own spacetime continuum.
  • 2009.07.20 02:27: @klaatu
    RT @steveburnett: "The [human] brain consumes about 20 watts of power each day." Kosko, Noise, p.99 http://bit.ly/Sq2pU
    and so go the dim-bulbs among us ;-)
  • 2009.07.20 02:33: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    so what would the planet look like if a crystalsphereslike quarantine (http://u.nu/5v2m) was applied to all emerging cultures ?
    Funny, I just listened to an mp3 of Brin reading that very story 2 hours ago.
    i read it a few weeks back, then listened to it in that "best of" collection. not brin reading though; that would be good.
  • 2009.07.20 02:36: @klaatu
    RT @steveburnett: "The [human] brain consumes about 20 watts of power each day." Kosko, Noise, p.99 http://bit.ly/Sq2pU
    from a units perspective, that doesn't make sense. joules per day, maybe, or plain watts as a rate, but not "watts per day"
  • 2009.07.20 02:40: @klaatu
    RT @steveburnett: "The [human] brain consumes about 20 watts of power each day." Kosko, Noise, p.99 http://bit.ly/Sq2pU
    20 watt-hours, maybe ?
  • 2009.07.20 02:41: @klaatu
    RT @steveburnett: "The [human] brain consumes about 20 watts of power each day." Kosko, Noise, p.99 http://bit.ly/Sq2pU
    20 watt-hours per day == constantly burning < 1 watt bulb. dim indeed.
  • 2009.07.20 02:44: @klaatu
    RT @steveburnett: "The [human] brain consumes about 20 watts of power each day." Kosko, Noise, p.99 http://bit.ly/Sq2pU
    bummer: http://u.nu/283m . but i'm sure hard thinking burns more fat than that.
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Saturday, July 18, 2009

a day in a life 2009.07.18

via @fractalnavel: in the last 24 hours:
  • 2009.07.18 17:18: today's odd "beer": dogfish head's "sahtea". juniper & black chai, who'd'a thunk. has an almost buttery finish. or should i say "finnish" ?
  • 2009.07.18 17:19: and... banana ! very subtle banana, in the after taste.
  • 2009.07.18 17:21: maybe i should mix layer this with a mocha stout - mmm, chocolate bananas. a very strange black & tan.
  • 2009.07.18 17:32: some noisy young kids playing in the neighborhood the last few weeks. is someone running a daycare out of their home ?
  • 2009.07.18 17:33: can't help thinking of two of them as "cutthroat bitch" & "hysterical twit". yeah, they're a match made in heaven.
  • 2009.07.18 17:35: the first will either be a mass murderer, or a politician. the other either be will featured in "scream xix", or married to a politician.
  • 2009.07.18 17:40: "either be will" - uh, yeah - sure; parse that ! ;-)
  • 2009.07.18 19:09: killing time is a losing battle; we all know how the story ends.
  • 2009.07.18 20:07: sometimes you gotta love twitter sheerly for its level of literacy: http://u.nu/9uuk , http://u.nu/2vuk . thanks, @punkrockscience ;-)
  • 2009.07.18 21:02: spam's just not as creative as it used to be. i have to admit, though, that "Reply, or I'll press charges!" is pretty compelling ;-)
  • 2009.07.18 21:02: wait - whaddya mean, "that wasn't spam" ?! cvrap.
  • 2009.07.18 21:06: it seems to me that it's becoming legally/financially defensible to ignore one's (e)mail; it's in corporate best interest to curb their spam
  • 2009.07.18 21:08: the alternative is to require everyone to feed the coffers of the scam artists by forcing us to open & consider every piece of trash
  • 2009.07.18 21:09: i don't think so
  • 2009.07.19 02:45: @punkrockscience
    @fractalnavel
    sometimes you gotta love twitter sheerly for its level of literacy: http://u.nu/9uuk , http://u.nu/2vuk . thanks, @punkrockscience ;-)
    I feel like I should be more offended by that, but - well, my brain had gone liquid and I was really in a terrible mood...
    oh, hey, it wasn't meant as criticism; i found it really amusing. bummer about the underlying realities, though.
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Friday, July 17, 2009

a day in a life 2009.07.17

via @fractalnavel: in the last 24 hours:
  • 2009.07.17 14:03: RT @klaatu Biomass-Eating Military Robot Is a Vegetarian, Company Says http://ur1.ca/7gc8 yeah, but a simple hack will fix that.
  • 2009.07.17 17:07: @klaatu
    Hey if newspaper websites are too dumb to setup a robots.txt file, they deserve to be crawled & aggregated to death.
    not that it would stop anything; that file is merely advisory.
  • 2009.07.17 17:15: the point in letting tv go is getting rid of the actviity (if you could call it that), not the device. dtv merely created an opportunity.
  • 2009.07.17 17:23: @klaatu
    RT @macroron: Tell Legislators You Want the Right to Self-Quarantine in the Event of a Pandemic, Not Forced Vaccinations! http://tr.im/sNSs
    i have to tell legislators that?! friggin' lawmakers need to start myob, that's what they need. or is it my nosy neighbors' fault?
  • 2009.07.17 17:24: @craigg75
    good luck @fractalnavel
    thanks.
  • 2009.07.17 17:25: @craigg75
    doesn't happen overnight
    i did spend about half of '98 not watching any tv. got a lot of reading done.
  • 2009.07.17 17:26: @craigg75
    tv is really a lazy way to entertain yourself.. takes work and different perspectives to go another route for entertainment
    is there a need for "entertainment" ? or is that a modern marketing ploy ? historically, life seemed more to meld all activities.
  • 2009.07.17 17:27: historical "entertainment": was rarely a solo thing, i think. more often, it was social, maintainng the community, and had a kind of purpose
  • 2009.07.17 17:28: need smaller communities for that sort of thing
  • 2009.07.17 17:29: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel good blog article.. "Why do we watch tv?"
    um - link ? did you send that along earlier this year ?
  • 2009.07.17 17:34: @craigg75
    blog article -- a suggestion for you to write
    ohhh duh. i'm so quick ;-) and for a moment, i also thought you were saying i had written one like that already. brain off.
  • 2009.07.17 17:36: @craigg75
    shall we build a barn for Jeremiah this weekend? have a hoe down afterwards?
    yeEE-HAaaaww ! hey, no kidding, i spent a lot of time in the woods in scouting, other camping. far more fun than piloting a couch
  • 2009.07.17 17:40: thing is, i don't do music either. it's the sounds of the weather, birds, insects that accompany me - and server fan whine & lawn mowers ...
  • 2009.07.17 17:44: jeep - no radio. no doors or roof either. year 'round. and yet, here i sit, year after year. nothing rational about any of this.
  • 2009.07.17 17:45: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @klaatu
    Hey if newspaper websites are too dumb to setup a robots.txt file, they deserve to be crawled & aggregated to death.
    not that it would stop anything; that file is merely advisory.
    Yeah but Google claims to respect robots.txt & related meta headers which should cover most of newsies complaints.
    sure, i think most search engines obey. but not all, and certainly not those crawlers just out to get a data fix.
  • 2009.07.17 17:47: @craigg75
    @klaatu google doesn't respect robots.txt, they abuse our site all the time, we just block their more aggressive ips
    abuse how ? or perhaps you haven't been clear, as far as the bots are concerned. robots.txt, nofollow, noindex errors ?
  • 2009.07.17 17:50: there's a reason i (and most others) like waterfronts - the waves speak an unending reassuring tone, accompanying nature's visual effects
  • 2009.07.17 17:51: damn landlocked location...
  • 2009.07.17 17:53: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    @craigg75
    shall we build a barn for Jeremiah this weekend? have a hoe down afterwards?
    yeEE-HAaaaww ! hey, no kidding, i spent a lot of time in the woods in scouting, other camping. far more fun than piloting a couch
    @craigg75 Funny, was about to suggest amish barn building myself there. its the social community building aspect literally.
    i have considered living like that, monasteries & such, but these would be a bad match, and appearances can be deceiving
  • 2009.07.17 17:55: @craigg75
    we've even raised a stink with them but nothing changes.. we did notice there are some ips that behave much differently than the rest though
    you're sure they're all google ? and how does a bot know that your site is "special" ? nah, something else is going on there
  • 2009.07.17 17:56: @craigg75
    by blocking the "rogue ips" things have improved a lot
    yes, that's ultimately the surest recourse. worst one i saw a while back was a search bot that executed javascript - ! yuk.
  • 2009.07.17 18:01: http://mobot.org/robots.txt - geez, dude - that reads more like a roadmap than a blocker ;-)
  • 2009.07.17 18:03: @craigg75
    nah mobot.org is the garden site, tropicos.org is the one
    figured as much, but i hit the first one that came to mind
  • 2009.07.17 18:04: there is no "allow" in the robot exclusion protocol
  • 2009.07.17 18:06: also - it matches strings, not regular expressions or wildcards (except in a couple of specific limited ways)
  • 2009.07.17 18:10: hmm - allow is an extension, eh...
  • 2009.07.17 18:27: @craigg75
    perhaps we should just create googlerobots.txt, they seem to define their own rules anyway
    no doubt. as for having more bot specific sections, i was going to mention that, since they all interpret extensions differently
  • 2009.07.17 18:28: not sure you should have "Allow /" though - at best, it does nothing. at worst - ?
  • 2009.07.17 18:29: robots.txt: no standard is starting to hurt. also, varying interpretations seem to be changing too quickly
  • 2009.07.17 18:30: my all time favorite re bots: http://bit.ly/17dp8l
  • 2009.07.17 18:33: @craigg75 have you guys considered using canonical link directives ? another tool for the box.
  • 2009.07.17 18:58: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    hmm - allow is an extension, eh...
    shitty example: allow is being used as a placeholder 2 avoid 404 errors if spiders look for robots.txt file. Still invalid.
    which is silly, becasue you can just use an empty robots.txt for that
  • 2009.07.17 20:22: @klaatu
    Paulson Threatened Great Depression, Food Riots To Get Bailout Bill Passed http://ur1.ca/7guv Hanging's too good for him..
    and yet - it could still happen (becasue of ? in spite of ? does it matter at this point?)
  • 2009.07.17 21:21: the weather here the last few hours just got amazing ...
  • 2009.07.17 23:12: whoa - opened a bottle of dogfish head's palo santo marron, and just started sipping - dang - stuff's 12% ! gotta be careful with that.
  • 2009.07.17 23:45: years after the last update, scifi.com's short stories section disappears - or is it a url problem ?
  • 2009.07.17 23:46: on the other hand, years after its inception, 365 tomorrows just keeps going http://www.365tomorrows.com/
  • 2009.07.18 00:39: i think you can tell the non-tech folks like this: they're the ones who try a piece of published code, and are skeptical if it'll work.
  • 2009.07.18 00:41: like, stupid: if it didn't work, nine times out of ten, it's you. and the normal assumption is that things do work.
  • 2009.07.18 00:43: ok: it seems like you're more - something - if you're a skeptic. takes one to know one, sure. but don't assume the trappings are the reality
  • 2009.07.18 00:44: thing is - people often do just accept the behaviors of "expertise", because they have no way of validating the reality od such
  • 2009.07.18 00:45: and so you get the morons who play to that ignorance - wunnerful little vicious circle we've got going there, wot ?
  • 2009.07.18 00:47: in skepticism, the burden of rationale is on the skeptic, not the other way around. interestingly, the converse is also true.
  • 2009.07.18 00:48: bottom line: self-doubt first. then attack like a hell-dog - but not before
  • 2009.07.18 00:50: still too simplified. the problem is that the great majority (more than 99%) do not know how to reason validly - but are not aware of that.
  • 2009.07.18 00:50: they reinforce their mutual self-deceptions and bad practices
  • 2009.07.18 00:52: wait: i think another word people use for that is "love". or "alliance". or "business". or "government".
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Thursday, July 16, 2009

a day in a life 2009.07.16

via @fractalnavel: in the last 24 hours:
  • 2009.07.16 17:46: @craigg75
    RT @RonPaulcom: Unanimous GOP Support for Paul’s Bill to Audit the Federal Reserve http://a2a.me/eFK
    d'ya think they would have supported this during dubya's term in office ? uh-huh. thought not. any such bill will be badly abused.
  • 2009.07.16 17:51: humorous: RT @craigg75 how can an audit be abused?
  • 2009.07.16 17:52: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel how can an audit be abused?
    seriously ? i guess you've never been in that situation personally or in a work context
  • 2009.07.16 17:58: make one little mistake: "I can guess what it is meant to be, but the omission doesn't inspire confidence. Has anyone tested this code?"
  • 2009.07.16 17:58: cvrap, tough audience.
  • 2009.07.16 18:04: @swadeshine
    @fractalnavel
    humorous: RT @craigg75 how can an audit be abused?
    IMO, the FED's need for an audit greatly outweighs any arguments to the contrary.
    agreed. but be ready for a lot of unnecessary nonsense. oh, what am i saying - this is politics ! ;-) & @craigg75
  • 2009.07.16 18:05: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel stay in context please if you want to discuss this.. don't generalize
    what ? audits don't cause trouble, even for the perfectly innocent ? how is that not relevant ?
  • 2009.07.16 18:07: audit: i guess i was aiming at the gop, & missed. hard to figure, with a target that size. sorry.
  • 2009.07.16 18:08: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel never mind.. you're insisting on making this into some meta issue instead of staying on topic and focused
    next you'll be telling me that i'm just using semantics ;-)
  • 2009.07.16 18:15: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel never mind.. you're insisting on making this into some meta issue instead of staying on topic and focused
    i just find it kinda amusing that it's me pushing a "hot button" for once. how often does that happen ? :-p
  • 2009.07.16 18:20: @swadeshine
    @fractalnavel
    @swadeshine
    @fractalnavel
    humorous: RT @craigg75 how can an audit be abused?
    IMO, the FED's need for an audit greatly outweighs any arguments to the contrary.
    agreed. but be ready for a lot of unnecessary nonsense. oh, what am i saying - this is politics ! ;-) & @craigg75
    I think whoever decided to turn this into a partisan issue is the unnecessary nonsense. Ex-Enron PR "wizard' the FED hired?
    the partisans have been looking for any excuse to be partisan; never any "innocents" in that crowd. but regrdless, it's time
  • 2009.07.16 18:21: audit: pretty much a "not on my watch thing". kinda like social security. maybe this administration has the cojones for it, come what may
  • 2009.07.16 18:25: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel never mind.. you're insisting on making this into some meta issue instead of staying on topic and focused
    more seriously, the unique thing i bring to most conversations is a reframing of the question. sometimes i miss, sometimes not.
  • 2009.07.16 18:41: @swadeshine
    most likely not the veil-lifting act itself, but those who may wish to retaliate for such action.
  • 2009.07.16 18:48: audit: unfortunately, this is probably not going to work out as well as "a few good men". we may well wish we had our col. jessep's back.
  • 2009.07.16 18:49: @swadeshine
    Q: If Audit the Fed (HR 1207) passes with enough votes to override presidential veto, could it be stopped on the grounds of Nat. Security?
    that's what i'm thinking...
  • 2009.07.16 18:51: @craigg75
    original moon landing vid tapes got erased http://bit.ly/2DXGJO
    eh, whatever. we're about to erase our entire maninspace program anyway. may as well do the retroactive bit too. bastards.
  • 2009.07.16 19:33: "You can now sign up for a Windows Azure account" - not too bad, only a day.
  • 2009.07.16 19:36: @craigg75
    QOTD: Why does Russia insist on holding on to Chechnya?
    question: how do you feel about the secession of one or more of the states ? why did canada fight (politically) to keep quebec ?
  • 2009.07.16 19:46: @swadeshine
    Wondering: Does the Earth ever wind up in approx. the same place after completing it's yearly orbit of the sun? If so, how often?
    positions: http://bit.ly/uc5PQ neglecting interstellar & larger contexts, of course
  • 2009.07.16 19:47: @craigg75
    much like South Carolina is to us :P
    that one in particular created quite a fuss a few generations ago
  • 2009.07.16 19:57: @swadeshine
    Thanks for all the great responses & links. Looks like @astrowebgirl nailed it w/ 200-250 mil years; when the Sun might be in the same place
    thing is, galaxies move too - in the largest context, the answer to your question is "never". like with lightning.
  • 2009.07.16 19:59: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel ever seriously question the civil war? did it really need to be fought?
    that's the thing: "need" ? so many contexts. ends up being value driven. as we know, that's an ephemeral concept at best.
  • 2009.07.16 20:14: @craigg75 yup. revisionism can be a bitch. but temporal context is not the only relevant one. give me a context, i'll give you an answer.
  • 2009.07.16 20:16: there are "absolutes". but like any good fundaments, they keep themselves well hidden.
  • 2009.07.16 20:27: @craigg75
    don't use the new firebug (1.4), broken as hell
    oh, f*ck - yeah, there have been signs...
  • 2009.07.16 20:28: @craigg75
    don't use the new firebug (1.4), broken as hell
    y'know, i don't even think i've fired up ff3.5 since i installed it a couple/few weeks back - how long has it been ?
  • 2009.07.16 20:30: some moron was hammerin' away at the same download earlier today. like, whatever - thanks for jackin' with everyone's bandwidth, asshole.
  • 2009.07.16 20:31: no real effect though. you'd have to go at this gae shit hard to make a dent.
  • 2009.07.16 20:32: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel
    @craigg75
    don't use the new firebug (1.4), broken as hell
    y'know, i don't even think i've fired up ff3.5 since i installed it a couple/few weeks back - how long has it been ?
    waiting on the plugins to catchup with ff3.5.. takes a month or two
    kinda makes one wonder - aren't the plug-in devs in on pre-release shit ?
  • 2009.07.16 20:43: @craigg75
    where's @klaatu? it's about that time of day for his shopping bot to hit twitter
    he's been conspicuously absent on a few occasions recently. no news, eh ?
  • 2009.07.16 20:47: from google io 2009 - "The Myth of the Genius Programmer" (video, 1 hr) http://u.nu/97ak : something to consider
  • 2009.07.16 20:47: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel been emailing him so I know he's around, just not much to say I guess
    yeah, right - that'll be the day ;-)
  • 2009.07.16 21:21: cvrap - awstats doesn't recognize "bing". well, ok - who in their right mind would ?
  • 2009.07.16 23:22: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel electricity off at home. back on at 9:00 pm
    thx for the heads up
  • 2009.07.17 00:45: where's the "no fuzzy animals, please" setting for bing ?
  • 2009.07.17 01:01: honesty: this no tv business is getting to be a bit of a drag. guess the addiction needs more time to wear off.
  • 2009.07.17 03:10: @jdhunt
    Maybe I'm getting used to less sleep, but I haven't been as tired this week as I had been.
    yup, it's a training thing. it will server you well later, if you can hold onto it.
  • 2009.07.17 03:12: geez, apparently i naively went & solved a problem all on my own. turns out there are teams of people still thrashing away on it.
  • 2009.07.17 03:12: & in multiple ways, as well. i guess i wasn't payng attention when people were saying how difficult it was. NOT.
  • 2009.07.17 03:14: do people inflate their problems sometimes so that they can be even prouder when they eventually overcome them ?
  • 2009.07.17 03:39: @jdhunt
    Damn, I mention that I HAVE ALREADY PAID for another year of hosting, and the bots start sending me URL's for a new host. Down, bot, down!
    don't say b o t either ;-)
  • 2009.07.17 03:40: @jdhunt
    @fractalnavel
    @jdhunt
    Maybe I'm getting used to less sleep, but I haven't been as tired this week as I had been.
    yup, it's a training thing. it will server you well later, if you can hold onto it.
    Getting up in the middle of the night is not something I plan on staying used to. Have to break the dog of that habit too.
    oh - i thought you meant shorter contiguous sleep. yeah, big difference there. i bet your dog is loving this, though ;-)
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Wednesday, July 15, 2009

a day in a life 2009.07.15

via @fractalnavel: in the last 24 hours:
  • 2009.07.15 14:20: @craigg75
    test
    delete
  • 2009.07.15 14:24: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    [white castle supply depleted]
    UR evil influence caused me to buy a box of frozen White Castles at Sams. Thats 16 of'em in the freezer now, tempting me.
    [insert evil laugh, eye shifting & hand wringing]
  • 2009.07.15 14:31: looking at windows azure & associated services - so far, a lot of marketing spin, not a clear path to just do something
  • 2009.07.15 14:33: www.microsoft.com/azure supposedly open for free ctp use (for only three months); but "live services" seem to be the only thing working
  • 2009.07.15 14:34: ".net services": keep getting blank page; "windows azure": have to wait in line; "sql azure": not taking new requests.
  • 2009.07.15 14:34: conclusion: windows azure ctp launch - FAIL
  • 2009.07.15 14:36: of course, this was just announced yesterday; it's not like they're a major software company or anything, they need time to come up to speed
  • 2009.07.15 14:37: juts window after pretty window, jumping all over ms's internet properties. have no idea where i'll land from link to link
  • 2009.07.15 14:38: separate signups all over - what's this "ms connect" bs ? have to go through that first ? strange...
  • 2009.07.15 14:39: while amazon & google are well known for operating seasoned scalable infrastructures, microsoft has no such background - and it shows
  • 2009.07.15 14:41: huh - that "sql azure" link - isn't. fake link! fake link! we just want to make ourselves look good.
  • 2009.07.15 14:42: they could sure learn a thing or two from google
  • 2009.07.15 14:49: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel sounds like a serious abuse of powerpoint-ware..pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
    the frustrating thing is, i know there's stuff there that they want me to use, and that i want to use - but i can't get there !
  • 2009.07.15 14:56: @craigg75
    @fractalnavel remember grasshopper.. MS betas aren't the same as google betas
    ya got that right. it's not even beta; they say so. hell, it's still mostly vapor - will have to put this back in its box.
  • 2009.07.15 15:11: @craigg75
    if you are seriously looking at excel using IE on an internet site, then you deserve the virus and your pc taken from you
    eh, the office web controls do have a purpose (reporting services) - but they really should be confined to intranet use only
  • 2009.07.15 15:12: windows azure: the disconnect is this, i think: quit selling, we're convinced already - just give us the goods !
  • 2009.07.15 15:40: windows azure: "the goods", as usual, are at msdn http://msdn.microsoft.com/azure/ what's this about iis7 being a pre-req for dev? oh, f* me
  • 2009.07.15 15:44: in other news - win free larosas pizza for a year: for ayear/" class="aLTLink" target="_blank">http://www.larosas.com/pizzafor ayear/
  • 2009.07.15 15:45: @klaatu
    Holdren Forced To Respond To Controversy Over Totalitarian Population Control Proposal http://ur1.ca/7cgh
    <whine>but what will the carnivorous battlebots eat ?</whine>
  • 2009.07.15 15:51: microsoft: on the other hand, WIN for http://microsoft.com/web ; really nice way of getting dev tools and apps - blog, cms, wiki, more
  • 2009.07.15 17:12: @jdhunt
    Delicious winnings! RT @fractalnavel: in other news - win free larosas pizza for a year: for ayear/" class="aLTLink" target="_blank">http://www.larosas.com/pizzafor ayear/
    <facepalm> increasing my competition. doh.
  • 2009.07.15 17:17: i'm going to enter the carnivorous battlebots in the free larosas pizza contest
  • 2009.07.15 17:25: RT @klaatu FREE: NASA will send your name to Mars! http://www.fatwallet.com/u/67q
  • 2009.07.15 17:27: name to mars: why not just stick all 7B names on there ? a la "horton hears a who" - "we're here! we're here! we're here!"
  • 2009.07.15 17:27: you just know the first alien communication will be a nigerian-style scam
  • 2009.07.15 17:43: name to mars: looks like an unprotected form. should set the bots on it... maybe i'll register "carnivorous battlebot"s 1 - 10,000,000,000
  • 2009.07.15 17:45: millenia from now, some "visitor" will discover the chip, figure we're incorrigibly hostile, & pre-emptively wipe us out.
  • 2009.07.15 17:51: i wanna kick these people in the nads: "What's the best mechanism to find rockstar ... developers working on contract for an hourly rate? "
  • 2009.07.15 18:05: stupid browser hitting the site: has deleted all referer & user agent info. paranoid moron. funny: in ssl, all the info is there ;-)
  • 2009.07.15 19:59: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    i wanna kick these people in the nads: "What's the best mechanism to find rockstar ... developers working on contract for an hourly rate? "
    Any1 who uses rockstar for a developer job isn't worth their salt. Itsa keyword for cheap bastard looking for a mule 2 abuse.
    exactly. unfortunately, far too many devs fall for that skirtsmokeblowing cvrap. sometimes being too easy of a victim is unethical
  • 2009.07.15 20:01: @klaatu
    @fractalnavel
    you just know the first alien communication will be a nigerian-style scam
    Yes but the aliens will be playing the Nigerian role in the scam. We will give you tech for some resources 1st.
    yup. short story for that would end with us having learned from our alien masters, going into space as interstellar conmen ourselves
  • 2009.07.15 20:06: someone blacklist this idiot before he hurts himself: http://bit.ly/10R4Cu
  • 2009.07.15 20:44: RT @dhamdhere Geektastic! RT @TechFlash: Gates, Microsoft put legendary Feynman physics lectures online http://tinyurl.com/mfbttv
  • 2009.07.15 20:50: @dhamdhere
    @fractalnavel
    looking at windows azure & associated services - so far, a lot of marketing spin, not a clear path to just do something
    DM me your Live ID. I'll get you a Windows Azure token.
    thx for the offer, but i'll wait my turn. i have some local tech limitations that prevent me from taking full advantge now anyway
  • 2009.07.15 20:56: and for post 2000, just this: "naked rubbing mouse brains". 'nuff said.
  • 2009.07.15 23:44: dept. of didja know: sometimes an ie process will have its priority bumped up to "above normal". big "wtf?!" moment. for video performance.
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