Monday, September 20, 2004 - Posts

Monday, September 20, 2004
a brother reports from the semi-rural michigan bar scene front.

i miss these days - well, maybe not:

In a message dated 9/19/2004 20:18:11 Eastern Daylight Time, sowajf@ writes:
By the way, Kathy and I went to the Village Pub in downtown
O'ville last night. Entertainment abound. We sat at the bar,
a two sided bar, across from a woman from Howell who was being
picked up by a twenty-something out-of-his-mind, and then after
he left, a sixty-something tried the same thing. The older man
was full of one liners. He was also running for township supervisor.
His add sounded straight forward; however, the first impression
seemed rather non-impressive. A stalker was calling the bartendress.
And a scantily-dressed twenty-something female was hanging over the
pool players. We then tried Annie MacPhees around 11pm, they were
closed. So we went to Bullfrog's, Kathy said it was a meat market.
If this is the kind of meat Ortonville is offering, no wonder so
many people are going vegetarian. The Cook's cows have no worries.

thanks for the grin !

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hawking's recant: not so much concerned with the event itself as what it may represent.

this started out as a comment on something craig posted, but then expanded into a life of its own: 

that strip doesn't seem particularly lofty, not a bit.  perhaps such a perception would arise as follows:

could be that your average person on the street (if there is such a thing) has been _trained_ to have his/her eyes glaze over when certain names or topics arise.  it could also be that those who fancy themselves savants have been trained to gloss instead of glaze, being facile at continuing discussion and suspending un-understanding until the material at hand has reached a (interim) consclusion.  in other words, they have learned to talk about things without feeling obliged to understand all the included concepts thoroughly, where those not so trained get stopped at an early bump.

leads to an interesting theory of "knowledge", this train of thought. [aha, a discovered pun! sort of]

anyway, i wanted to niggle with the word "corrected" - a simple "changed" would be more accurate.  especially considering that all of this is purely speculative in the first place.  t'ain't no such animal as experimental black hole physics, eh ?

so the physicists have managed to bring one of their troublesome elite into the fold of their vaunted conservation theories.  a sad thing, in its way.  still, what of entropy ?  on a universal scale, where are the sinks ? (in the kitchen ;-) )

it's things like this that continue to nudge at the corners of my mind, telling me that we've fallen prematurely into a locally self-consistent solution set in terms of math/physics/philosophy, etc.  will the remaining visible inconsistencies and incompletenesses be enough to motivate some minds to explore outside our accustomed pit, or has the entrenchment already become too great ?  and in answering this question, do not underestimate the size and depth of the pit, and what it really means to be “outside”  of it.


oh, the kerry reference i considered to be below notice, not above it. although it was apropos of the strip's name, very cute.
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